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ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:48 am
by Jonno
For those who were wondering how this system works on the 2011 ZX10R.




It works good ;)

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:09 am
by vivek67
So how does traction control system understand that tyre is about to lose grip? I know this is a basic question on tcs but I've always wondered about that. Amazing that this technology comes with new road bikes these days.

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:12 am
by Jonno
vivek67 wrote:So how does traction control system understand that tyre is about to lose grip? I know this is a basic question on tcs but I've always wondered about that. Amazing that this technology comes with new road bikes these days.


Predictive I suppose. It learns.

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:09 pm
by Fred
vivek67 wrote:So how does traction control system understand that tyre is about to lose grip? I know this is a basic question on tcs but I've always wondered about that. Amazing that this technology comes with new road bikes these days.


It uses the information from the 2 wheel sensors and compares the data if the rear wheel is traveling quicker it intervenes.



Fred

ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:08 pm
by Wattie
Fred wrote:
vivek67 wrote:So how does traction control system understand that tyre is about to lose grip? I know this is a basic question on tcs but I've always wondered about that. Amazing that this technology comes with new road bikes these days.


It uses the information from the 2 wheel sensors and compares the data if the rear wheel is traveling quicker it intervenes.



Fred


Yeah but it predicts when I will and steps in early apparently.
So it must collect data from Throttle position, revs, gear, recent losses of traction and cut in quicker.

ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:52 pm
by tim
The system can't possibly know it's about to loose grip while it has 'perfect' grip, but it can quickly tell as soon as it's loosing grip front or rear, and i'd imagine probably looks at the rate of loss of traction etc as Wattie said, performs some mathematical modelling wizardry and vwallah it limits the throttle effectively.

If it could predict loss of traction in the future before ANY traction was lost at all I think Kawasaki would be winning the Nobel prize for science and would be able to read all of our minds :)

ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:57 pm
by Wattie
The good thing about Kawi, it doesn't chip throttle either. It cuts spark, so less intrusive

ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:14 pm
by tim
Wattie wrote:The good thing about Kawi, it doesn't chip throttle either. It cuts spark, so less intrusive

How does that work exactly? So the motor still stays smooth when it drops one cylinder off to drop power? or something else?

ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:32 pm
by Wattie
tim wrote:
Wattie wrote:The good thing about Kawi, it doesn't chip throttle either. It cuts spark, so less intrusive

How does that work exactly? So the motor still stays smooth when it drops one cylinder off to drop power? or something else?


Yep, just cuts spark to 1 or more cyls as required, less jerky.

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:56 pm
by timmyrocks
That's a mad video, and some serious technology!

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:03 pm
by z900/zx9
I reckon its cheating ;)

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:30 pm
by Jonno
You hear it before you feel it..."pop.....pop.pop........pop and off ya go again with a little slide out of a turn and a few more pops and a bit of a wheelie down the straight with more pops as it brings that front down again, smooth transition and apparently economical as far as speed and times. (not that i would know)

I dont dare turn it off, yes it is an aid so is an OEM quickshifter but it also allows me to find the (my) limit quicker without huge cost of an off.
But we have to move on with the times, like transitioning from wooden rims and horses aye Mal :P

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:42 pm
by timmyrocks
Yep having that piece of mind that the bike will try and control some or most of your error would be corrected :)
I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference or use either of them to their full potential but I'd like to see if I could make it work hehe :P

ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:04 pm
by UncleChopChop
tim wrote:The system can't possibly know it's about to loose grip


Its aided by the flux capacitor ya dumbarse 8)

Re: ZX-10R S-KTRC

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:02 am
by Jonno
UncleChopChop wrote:
tim wrote:The system can't possibly know it's about to loose grip


Its aided by the flux capacitor ya dumbarse 8)




Best explaination of all :lol: