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Speedfine calculation?

Postby TopCat » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:10 pm

Coming home from work about 7:30 on Fri night along Beaconsfield parade in Port Melb and passed a speed camera attached to the front of a blue Camry wagon. :evil:

Reckon I could have been doing 66km (I glanced at the speedo just as I realised what it was). How do they calculate whether you are over the threshold. Previous fines have been well over so I haven't been in this position before.

Is it :
1) deduct 3 km for camera error allowance and;
2) then if you are >3 km over you get done;
so in a 60km zone your speedo could read 66 and you're in the clear.

I'm looking for some factual information, anyone who wants to tell me to bend over and take it (and there are some of these around), can please piss into the wind. :)

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Postby icebreaker » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:15 pm

My understanding is 3k's over is it... whether that means 63 or 64 i'm not sure..
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Postby MadKaw » Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:29 pm

Your speedo is probly 5 to 10 % optimistic and the speed cameras work on about 5% error as well, so you may be ok.... or not..:-)
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Postby TopCat » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:37 pm

Thanks Icebreaker / Dave,
After the camera I set the cruise control at the same reading as I saw on the speedo after realising I had passed a camera (66 km/hr). The car has a little computer that show things like fuel cons, range in tank, etc and one of the items is a digital reading of the current speed. Anyway the digital readout showed 65.7km so call it 66km. Kinda verifies thge analogue speedo.

Now, I don't know whether the inaccuracy that the ADR allowance of 10% is supposed to compensate is in the gears in the speedo or the gears in the wheel or in the whole line from wheel pickup to speedo needle. In other words, is the digital readout any more accurate than the analogue speedo. I'm supposing it is, but I don't know.

Dave, the situation in Vic is that before the 3km limit the cameras respected the 10% ADR limit and were set accordingly. Not happy with the resulting revenue stream Bracks and Co set the limit for cameras to 3km. Not much more than the width of a pubic hair on a speedo (and I'm not talking swimwear!). Thats my understanding of the situation anyway.

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Postby aardvark » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:43 pm

Mate, I reckon you should just bend over and take it.....










Bah, seriously.. I hate those gutter vultures as well. If you are gonna get nicked for speeding, then you should be stopped and spoken to, not sent a bit of paper in the post. Money grabbing pricks.
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Postby spekt-r » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:53 pm

aardvark wrote:Bah, seriously.. I hate those gutter vultures as well. If you are gonna get nicked for speeding, then you should be stopped and spoken to, not sent a bit of paper in the post. Money grabbing pricks.

Mate, well said.
I do think that speed cameras should be set up in zones where speeding would pose a particular risk to others though, like near schools and where there would normally be lost of people crossing a road, things like that, I would hate to think how many people I would brutally slaughter with my bare hands if anything ever happened to my Hayley, I hate people who speed at inappropriate places, theres a time, a place and a vehicle to be doing on. Common sense goes a long way.
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Postby TopCat » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:01 pm

[quote="spekt-r : Sorry about the rant.[/quote]

Problem is that its not a rant, it is common sense, and how a lot of people feel.

Beaconsfield parade is a 3 lane 60km zone where I have never heard of there being a fatality, and have never seen a crash and I travel the raod fairly frequently. It is blatant revenue raising.

I'm reasonably alert to speed cameras but at some point your luck(?) has to run out. Bit annoying that there is such a low threshold. :twisted:
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Postby Yankee » Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:26 pm

oh, i wanted to be the one that said the "do the crime do the time" joke! thanks ardvarrk!
yeah, i agree tho, i think you have to be "caught" and "given" the ticket right then and there... non of this in the mail BS.... little spineless dicks!
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Postby Blackzxr » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:16 pm

Fingers crossed for yah mate.

I hate the farkers with a passion. Feel like getting an old shitta removing the plates, drive around and find them. Run over their flash, or pull up in front of them give the finger, chuck into to reverse and nail it. BANG, cop that carn. :lol: :lol: :shock: :twisted:

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Postby Smitty » Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:33 pm

TopCat wrote:Beaconsfield parade is a 3 lane 60km zone

it is now....
used to be a 3 lane ratrun
for all those working at Holdens and the Comm Aircraft factory
at the "Bend...
back when I worked at Holdens...
it was a racetrack.....
I had one of the 1st V8 Commodores made
and you could get to at least 100 and.. when you left PIckle St
before you had to brake for Kerferd Rd...
and I won't tell you the tale of the company SLR5000 I had
so
blame it on me.... :)

reminds me of a Monty Python line...
so who's a naughty boy then.... :shock:

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Postby Neka79 » Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:33 pm

bend over & cop it sweet boy!!
i hate it wen the wind comes up on ya wen ur pissing too!!
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Postby SeanZX9R » Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:52 am

Does any1 know if its true, that the cameras can only focus on two lanes at a time and not four lanes??
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Postby mrmina » Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:14 pm

i heard thats true they can only focus on two lanes.
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Postby mrmina » Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:16 pm

neka79 at optusnet.com.au wrote:bend over & cop it sweet boy!!


i bet u've had that whispered in ur ear a few times neka.
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Postby mrmina » Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:19 pm

also topcat,

the way it works is:

3 km deduction from the final speed reading. the final speed reading is from the camera.

if u are 3-10km over its $165
10km-20km over its $200
anything over is suspension and maybe court.
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