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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:35 am
by Burky
Well it's back, will play with the settings today and ride to see how much better it is. It allready seems better just getting on and off as it will actualy squat's a bit (never used to). Terry advised he could put a softer spring as they are designed for a rider around the 90kg plus a pillion but being 70kg and a pillion once in a blue moon, well i decided to retain the original spring as a track day now and then i could do with the stiffer spring. Time to play with settings now to realy injoy a decent ride.

So far thumbs up for Terry and the team :D .

Pricing was great to :D

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:51 am
by gixxerdave
did you get your forks done as well? or have they been rebuilt or modified before?
after i got the ohlins rear shock, i found it made the front end three times worse, it just wasnt coping hence why i decided to bite the bullet and get the gold valve job done, and its done the job, also with a pillion the bike's super stable even tho i shortened the wheelbase by taking a few links out of a new chain when i fitted it.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:13 pm
by Burky
Got back from a ride :D :D :D i can honestly say it is fantastic!!!!

The bike has never felt so good before. Haven't played with rebound dampening as yet but i am over the moon so far, and this can only get better.

As for the front it was done just before i bought the bike. I have done the cable ties on the front and they are sitting at about 25mm from the bottom after hard braking (note to self: stoppies are friggin scary :shock: ) but all in all it feels great.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:34 pm
by Strika
hoffy wrote:gold valves are bigger diametre, all this means is they allow faster compression & rebound than the stock smaller valves, which is great on the road for reading different and inconsistent road surfaces but indifferent on the track where its nice and smooth.

They do work on road ! but are indifferent on the track as they are not needed due to the consistent & smooth road surface.
Perhaps I should put it in Simpler terms!

A suspension mechanic, who actually knows what they are doing, can revalve your standards units (on the later stuff, forget the earlier stuff, it needs junking :lol: ) with the correct valving to suit the rider, where and how they ride!!!!! All without the need to fit Gold valves!

Maybe some of you guys who bought them should surf the net for a Flux Capacitor relay to go with them, I here they make all the difference!!!!! :wink:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:04 pm
by Gosling1
Strika wrote:.....Maybe some of you guys who bought them should surf the net for a Flux Capacitor relay to go with them, I here they make all the difference!!!!! :wink:
McFLY !!! I'm gonna trash your car McFLY - get my homework done before 9am McFly, or its YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ARSE MCFLY !!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: (gotta love a Flux capacitor)

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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:07 pm
by MadFab
who really gives a shit !!!!

if putting fluffy dice on my handelbars makes me ride quicker i would do it .

my 03 zx12r has been fitted with racetech gold valves and it was a complete waste of money.............the previous owner did it .

why would you try to make a sportsbike out of a tourer anyway.


burky if it works for you , it was worth every penny !

my 3 cents worth

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:34 pm
by hoffy
Strika wrote:
hoffy wrote:gold valves are bigger diametre, all this means is they allow faster compression & rebound than the stock smaller valves, which is great on the road for reading different and inconsistent road surfaces but indifferent on the track where its nice and smooth.

They do work on road ! but are indifferent on the track as they are not needed due to the consistent & smooth road surface.
Perhaps I should put it in Simpler terms!

A suspension mechanic, who actually knows what they are doing, can revalve your standards units (on the later stuff, forget the earlier stuff, it needs junking :lol: ) with the correct valving to suit the rider, where and how they ride!!!!! All without the need to fit Gold valves!

Maybe some of you guys who bought them should surf the net for a Flux Capacitor relay to go with them, I here they make all the difference!!!!! :wink:
Dont start me on my Flux Capacitor, youd be crazy not to have one... :lol:

yeah I agree gold valves and all this suspension inproving business is shit anyway, give me inadequate poor handling suspension designed for 68kg Japs anyday :?
lets go back to standard forks with 34mm tubing and ride like real men do, wallowing through corners :? :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:46 pm
by Neilp
hoffy wrote:
Strika wrote:
hoffy wrote:gold valves are bigger diametre, all this means is they allow faster compression & rebound than the stock smaller valves, which is great on the road for reading different and inconsistent road surfaces but indifferent on the track where its nice and smooth.

They do work on road ! but are indifferent on the track as they are not needed due to the consistent & smooth road surface.
Perhaps I should put it in Simpler terms!

A suspension mechanic, who actually knows what they are doing, can revalve your standards units (on the later stuff, forget the earlier stuff, it needs junking :lol: ) with the correct valving to suit the rider, where and how they ride!!!!! All without the need to fit Gold valves!

Maybe some of you guys who bought them should surf the net for a Flux Capacitor relay to go with them, I here they make all the difference!!!!! :wink:
Dont start me on my Flux Capacitor, youd be crazy not to have one... :lol:

yeah I agree gold valves and all this suspension inproving business is shit anyway, give me inadequate poor handling suspension designed for 68kg Japs anyday :?
lets go back to standard forks with 34mm tubing and ride like real men do, wallowing through corners :? :lol:
Wasting your time there Hoffy all suspension mechs could learn a thing or 2 from Strika, "apparently"


Neil
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:00 pm
by Strika
Neilp wrote:
hoffy wrote:
Strika wrote: Perhaps I should put it in Simpler terms!

A suspension mechanic, who actually knows what they are doing, can revalve your standards units (on the later stuff, forget the earlier stuff, it needs junking :lol: ) with the correct valving to suit the rider, where and how they ride!!!!! All without the need to fit Gold valves!

Maybe some of you guys who bought them should surf the net for a Flux Capacitor relay to go with them, I here they make all the difference!!!!! :wink:
Dont start me on my Flux Capacitor, youd be crazy not to have one... :lol:

yeah I agree gold valves and all this suspension inproving business is shit anyway, give me inadequate poor handling suspension designed for 68kg Japs anyday :?
lets go back to standard forks with 34mm tubing and ride like real men do, wallowing through corners :? :lol:
Wasting your time there Hoffy all suspension mechs could learn a thing or 2 from Strika, "apparently"


Neil
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Apparently....I must have claimed somewhere that I was a suspension guru??? I must have missed that???? I actually thought, that I said my suspension guy does my work and HE KNOWS what he is doing???? Must be getting senile in my old age!!!!!!! Errr carry on! :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:18 pm
by Gosling1
Neilp wrote:....Wasting your time there Hoffy all suspension mechs could learn a thing or 2 from Strika, "apparently"


Neil
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If you read his post properly, you would have seen that it was in fact Strika who was learning a thing or 2 from his suspension guru !! :roll:
Hoffy wrote:...lets go back to standard forks with 34mm tubing and ride like real men do, wallowing through corners ....
:lol: :lol: its 36mm forks mate !! :wink: and yeh, everyone should be forced to ride on a 1977 kwakka with spaghetti frame and skinny tyres, that would sort 'em all out ........... :P :P

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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:24 pm
by Strika
Gosling1 wrote:
Neilp wrote:....Wasting your time there Hoffy all suspension mechs could learn a thing or 2 from Strika, "apparently"


Neil
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If you read his post properly, you would have seen that it was in fact Strika who was learning a thing or 2 from his suspension guru !! :roll:
Hoffy wrote:...lets go back to standard forks with 34mm tubing and ride like real men do, wallowing through corners ....
:lol: :lol: its 36mm forks mate !! :wink: and yeh, everyone should be forced to ride on a 1977 kwakka with spaghetti frame and skinny tyres, that would sort 'em all out ........... :P :P

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36mm :shock: Bloody luxury that is!!!! When I were a lad................................................................... :lol:


There is something to be said about learning to ride on an evil handling spaghetti framed shitter with no compression or rebound to speak of, springs 4kg too soft, and tyres skinnier than Paris Hiltons hips! :lol:

I guess it kinda teaches you the difference between a bike moving around and an actual slide!!!!! :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:29 pm
by Johnnie5
MadFab wrote:who really gives a shit !!!!

if putting fluffy dice on my handelbars makes me ride quicker i would do it .

my 03 zx12r has been fitted with racetech gold valves and it was a complete waste of money.............the previous owner did it .

why would you try to make a sportsbike out of a tourer anyway.


burky if it works for you , it was worth every penny !

my 3 cents worth
maybe the gold valves were a waste of money

but getting suspension setup correctly and making a bike handle better is money well spent on any bike

and esp on big bikes as it reduces tyre wear and doesnt take long at all to recoup the money spent on tyres saved

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:15 am
by MadFab
trying to get a zx12 too handle properly is like trying to get common sense out of you blokes............impossible

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:10 am
by MickLC
MadFab wrote:my 03 zx12r has been fitted with racetech gold valves and it was a complete waste of money.............the previous owner did it .
I'm curious...if the previous owner did it, how do you know it was a waste of money?

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:30 pm
by MadFab
I'm curious...if the previous owner did it, how do you know it was a waste of money?
simple you are wasting money trying to get a zx12 to handle ........they are shite.

plus i have ridden them standard ..still shite !

but i still love mine , it is just so socially irresponsible !