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Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:54 pm
by mike-s
By jimminy i think i identified and (mostly) fixed the problem. The bike now slows down instead of holding the revs! All i need to do now is put a bit of lubrication on the sliders again. They aren't totally dry, but not as lubricated as they could be as it is slowing down to idle over about 5-6 seconds instead of only a couple. I guess i should plain on taking the carb top caps off again, or just being lazy and taking the air filter out and spraying wd40 in the throat.
Next on the agenda is to balance the carbs and possibly re-tweak the idle as i suspect it's been out for some time now. Oncei've got that done the true test will be taking her out on the road and giving her a shakedown.
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:32 pm
by Gosling1
take the slides out and give them another hit with the wet'n'dry. I think they need it.....

Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:51 pm
by mike-s
I had a feeling that was what i was going to have to do. Frankly i was hoping i wouldn't have to as the tank is a pain in the arse to re-fit after it comes off.
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:05 pm
by mike-s
FIXED!
Turns out all i needed to do to fix the carb sticking issue was swap the carb sliders between the carbs

Way too much time spent fu*ing about and that was the fix .
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:08 am
by mike-s
not fixed. Fuckit im buying some second hand carbs and putting a hammer to these peices of crap
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:21 pm
by Gosling1
what you should do, is measure up the carbie throats OD on the engine side, and see if you can get a set of 2nd-hand carbs off a late-model GS500. You can just ditch the electronic bits you don't need, and I will bet my house that the response will be light-years from those old shitter that were fitted. I think you will find that these late-model carbs should pretty much bolt straight up ?

Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:40 pm
by mike-s
Hmm, that's a bloody interesting idea. however the gsx has twin carbs, not a single, so i suspect it won't exactly be the right size.
Concept is still interesting though.
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:35 pm
by Gosling1
the GS 500 is a twin ....I reckon they will just about bolt straight on....

Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:48 am
by mike-s
i was thinking, carbs for a 500, onto a 250?
Still need to look into it more i guess.
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:09 pm
by Arkup
Haven't got a vacume leak have you.. Maybe, possibly..
Usually get backfiring from inlet manifolds but you are probably onto it with the slide thing any way, but I thought I would chuck my 2 bobs worth in..
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:35 pm
by mike-s
Already checked it with "start ya bastard" which is an ether based aerosol (don't use in an enclosed space unless you like passing out) and sprayed it all over the carbs, boots, backside of the heads as well as the vacuum guage screwhead thingo's that have been sealed up. Absolutely nothing, so i am 100% confident it isn't an issue with air leaks.
Hopefully the new carbs arrive tomorrow and i can strip them down, clean them out and just do a straight swap.
Re: Revs sticking (not rising) when throttle shut.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:05 pm
by mike-s
Just reading on another forum, gpx/zzr250's use pretty much a compatible carby (cvk30), if the new ones turn out to be a bust i might look into getting a late model pair of these.