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				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:11 pm
				by h.b.bear
				the kid wrote:mohawk miss wrote:
1- Cabbage is a winter veg, since you're in vic you should be planting out around march. 
2- the heat will knock your matoe around, try watering early evening. They also seem to get a lot of viruses, Wilt is probably the most common. Not much you can do with that.
HTH  
 
anything else?
 
That sucks , why on earth do they stock the seedling shelves with cabbage seedlings , bastards .
 
hoping that people with no knowledge of vegie gardening will buy them , sounds like it worked 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:16 pm
				by 6maniac
				Billy .... everybody knows these need to be grown indoors ......
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:25 pm
				by Sulli
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:05 pm
				by Damon Z1000
				Billy, every cubic metre of clean garden soil, mix in 50-60l of well rotted chicken, horse or duck shit, put yourself an irrigation system around the veggie patch, add a simple water metre and hey presto........ veggies and tomatoes 
 
A good veggie patch needs full sun at least half the day, morning until early afternoon is good, try not to expose it to the hot afternoon sun, this is watering time 
 
Just don't forget the high quantity of shit and when ya veggies and tomatoes are finished fire em into the compost along with any other greens waste you have from the kitchen.
Enjoy
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:51 am
				by dilligaf
				
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:15 am
				by the kid
				
Had it for years , great guide .
Damo , I think I better sort the shit out better . Positioning is good , but probably the greatest fail is lack of water when I am away for work . Timer system needed .... as soon as The Shed is sorted .
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:10 am
				by JetPilot
				I have an idea.... maybe use water when gorwing plants they like this lmao. 
On a serious note. They soil cant handle year after year of the same plant, takes out nutrients from soil.
farmers move crops from field to field and never in the same spot 2 years running. Try blood and bone or chicken shit mate. Soil needs to be fed.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:14 am
				by Bogan
				Like someone said, cabbage is for winter.  For summer give sunflowers a go.  Put them in last weekend in August and by this time of year they should all be blooming with flowers as big as your head.
Pics are maybe a week old, there's more flowers coming out daily now...   
			
		
				
			
 
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				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:55 am
				by h.b.bear
				may look pretty but you cant really eat them unless your a cockatoo or can you
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:07 pm
				by z900/zx9
				We have rampant tomato plants that just grew all over the place,also the same with strawberrie plants.Secret is dont give a shit and they will grow
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:25 am
				by Mizz ZZR
				I'm stunned Mal spelled tomato correctly!
Billy, you say you have a Yates Garden Guide, so read it! There will be a table in there, detailing what time of the year to plant what. If you started your tomatoes in Sept, they're probably on the end of their life pretty soon, that might be your issue. I also know that you have to continuously feed tomatoes, be it manure or Seasol or tomato food, so long as its something. 
I don't know what kind of property you're on, but if you can spare the space for a small chook pen to house 2 chooks, do it. My Nan always put her own chook poo on her gardens and we had apricots the size of oranges, and you wouldn't believe the flavour. If you lay straw down in the chook pen for them to scratch in and top it up every month or so when it beds down, then you can dig it up and use it - but dilute it with other soil, or in water cause its pretty potent stuff.
I wish we had the space for a veggie patch here, I remember those magnificent flavours of home grown veggies, that's what makes it worth it more than the money.
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:24 pm
				by the kid
				Kazz , Im away from my place too much to have chooks , but we had them when I was a kid . Quite entertaining and great for pests .
Must admit , I like Mals way of gardening  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:41 pm
				by Possum
				Companion planting also assists with bug control and soil condition 
 
Herb/Vegie combo's work well
http://www.permaculture.org.au/resource ... _Plant.pdf
Have fun  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:11 pm
				by mohawk miss
				JetPilot wrote:
On a serious note. They soil cant handle year after year of the same plant, takes out nutrients from soil.
farmers move crops from field to field and never in the same spot 2 years running. Try blood and bone or chicken shit mate. Soil needs to be fed.
Its actually more to do with soil bourne bugs & viruses, things like the dreaded nematodes and rust spores, but it is a good idea to rotate crops.
MULCH! and more MULCH! helps with the water loss.
I never buy vegie seedlings. I buy seeds from Diggers Club, lots of great unusual stuff like white tomatoes and purple fleshed potatoes. Try them. 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Gardeners Corner
				Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:47 pm
				by Phil
				the kid wrote:mohawk miss wrote:
1- Cabbage is a winter veg, since you're in vic you should be planting out around march. 
2- the heat will knock your matoe around, try watering early evening. They also seem to get a lot of viruses, Wilt is probably the most common. Not much you can do with that.
HTH  
 
anything else?
 
That sucks , why on earth do they stock the seedling shelves with cabbage seedlings , bastards .
 
2 words Billy, Shareholders and Profit 
 
The world is f*cked, everything is about the profit.