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Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:15 pm
by myk1979
Fact is that you get nothing for nothing. If we get this handout then we will be paying it back thru increased taxes over the next 10 years or so.
Yes i'd love an extra $950 in my pocket but it's not going to fix the problem.

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:26 pm
by bishboy
I agree that the $950 will either be used to pay off debt, buy a plasma or some other imported useless piece of consumerism (except of course exercise equipment ;) ), seriously though I can't see much of the $950 being spent in my stores. Although I agree in general with the buy Australian drive, as nothing in my stores is made in Australia, everything is made in China, except one brand of rowers made in the USA (retail $2,500 plus) so if people want to buy fitness equipment they cannot buy Australian. :?

Due to now being a self employed lower income earner I will get the $950 (how does it work for those with kids in a joint custody arrangement?), I didn't get any of the last lot. This one will only be spent on credit card debt, although now will be spent on fixing the R1 after my little tumble last week.

Infrastructure spending needs to spent on big ticket items, hospitals, schools, water projects, some decent roads and spent as private businesses would spend capital funds, on a quality product at a reasonable price, not contracted to some fucking labour party hack or party contributor with their hand in krudds or swans pocket. I read of some school wanting to spend $300,000 on shade cloth cover, what are they covering the whole damn school. Also, any large construction infrastructure should be managed on a break even basis by a project manager and not contracted out to some private enterprise who is going to gouge the govt and made huge profit margins. For example, I had a client when I was in banking who did major electrical projects for the state govt on a cost plus 15% basis, so he didn't care what the cost was as the more the cost was the more he made. Also, krudd and his buddies need to tell the unions to pull their fucking heads in and restrict their bullshit demands and do whats best for their members by getting more of them employed.

Something I haven't seen mentioned is the size of the govt deficit needed to fund this spending, at this stage its estimated at $100 billion which equates to $115 million a week in interest (at 5%). It took Costello 10 years to pay off the $100 billion debt he inherited and that was during times of great growth in the economy fuelled by huge demand from China for raw materials which was in turn driven by consumer demand in the US. The recovery of Australia's economy (and in particular the growth of the economy) is highly dependent upon the demand of the US (and Europe) for the products of China (although China does have a high internal demand, the demand for high ticket items is limited by the low average wealth of their individuals) and this reduced demand for commodities coupled with the reduced demand (ie competitiveness) of Australian exports (mainly agriculture) due to the level of the $A leads to a huge reduction in tax income for the govt which in turn inhibits its ability to reduce debt. Hope I remembered by economic theory from uni correctly ;)

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:17 pm
by Enforcer
(quoted posts deleted by admin)

That has to be the worst reply I have ever read on ANY FORUM.
Who gives you the right to say that on a public forum. I think you might be the dick head.
A private message would have been better.
IS THIS WHAT KSRC IS MADE OF.

IM GONE GOOD BYE.

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:36 pm
by Slow and wobbly
Enforcer wrote: IS THIS WHAT KSRC IS MADE OF?

IM GONE GOOD BYE.
No.
In short.

I have since spoken to Ron on the phone and apologised. I misinterpreted and reacted badly.
But KSRC is made up of alot of people with alot of opinions and that's what a forum is about.

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:57 pm
by MadKaw
Yes, it was harsh and doesn't look to good, so its been removed...

I know it is an emotional issue (the fires, not the handout) but can we refrain from any abuse and threats.

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:58 pm
by 6maniac
+++1 :arrowu: I also apologised to Adrian for a poorly worded post.... after re-reading it, if the boot was on the other foot ( and given the tragedy many Victorian communities are facing ), I may have responded in a similar fashion. All sorted......we've even agreed to have a beer or two if our paths cross.

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:18 pm
by the kid
Enforcer wrote:
IM GONE GOOD BYE.
GOLD :lol:
Seriously Mate , look past the rude rant and accept that around this place there is some slack for outburst like this , and if you have checked back you can see there has been some reconciliation between a couple of long posting members .
Hang around a little longer and see what a ripper forum you are just getting into . If it isnt your cupOtea then fair riding to you and keep it shiny side up ;)

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:30 pm
by 6maniac
+1, Billy...... doesn't pay to be too precious in here ! :D

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:33 pm
by Disco
6maniac wrote:+1, Billy...... doesn't pay to be too precious in here ! :D
Piss orf Ron I'm outta HERE!!!!! *Where's my handbag*

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:34 pm
by Slow and wobbly
6maniac wrote:+1, Billy...... doesn't pay to be too precious in here ! :D
What would you know Ron!










:D

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:41 pm
by 6maniac
SFA, Adrian :oops:

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:44 pm
by the kid
6maniac wrote:+1, Billy...... doesn't pay to be too precious in here ! :D
Fuck OFF Ron , you still owe me a beer from HG and 2 more for posting THAT picture of my BUM . :twisted:
See ya at the Gap ??

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:49 pm
by 6maniac
Careful with the language, mate... the mod's trigger fingers are a bit itchy ! Just remind me when I'm at the bar ( after all, I'm not getting any younger ) !!! :roll:

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:42 pm
by Enforcer
DISCO wrote:[

Piss orf Ron I'm outta HERE!!!!! *Where's my handbag*
Say what.....

I will pay particular interest to a ZX6 with monster graphics..... hat40.gif .

Re: KRudd's $950 payout

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:47 pm
by Disco
Enforcer wrote:
DISCO wrote:[

Piss orf Ron I'm outta HERE!!!!! *Where's my handbag*
Say what.....

I will pay particular interest to a ZX6 with monster graphics..... hat40.gif .
Ease up tiger...All in good fun... :D ...