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MickLC wrote:

Strika wrote:Word last night was pressure on the brain had dropped from a scale of 20 down to 3. They say they may start trying to repair other things today or tomorrow, which tells me they think he has a chance. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the wellwishes everyone.

Good news

....and I'm guessing he's known as Woodsie on another forum?

Yeah Mick, that's him. Doesn't deserve this really.... but who does I suppose

I read Simoncelli's father's words regarding what happened, the track marshals and Marco as a person. I doubt you have a heart if you can read that without tearing up. He is remaining positive and trying to keep all the joy of Marco as a person with his words. A brave man who is following his son's wishes, remaining open to talking to the media, even saying Marco used to allow people to interrupt his dinner at home, our out at restaurants and would berate his dad if his dad tried to say no to a fan. Marco was embracing of his fans and the support given to him. I am still a bit numb over this one. this one to me, I reckon is how I would have felt if I had watched Rossi get that far and then leave us so early in life and in his career. I guess he will always be remembered as the one who perhaps could have been the next Rossi.

His dad also put down the criticism of the track marshals and medicos. He said when he arrived trackside, Marco was already gone even before being loaded onto the stretcher. He said he helped carry Marco over the barrier and held his hand while they loaded him into the ambulance saying "Ciao Marco" He said it did not matter that the stretcher was fumbled by the marshals. He said his son was already gone by then.

I think his dad is perhaps one of the strongest father's I have met. Although, one comment he made says he blames himself. He mentioned that always, he shook Marcos hand and wished him luck before he hopped on the bike for every race. He said he obviously did something wrong this time........

Dont kno about the medicos, but i thort the flagie responded very qik to get that red flag out, he did his job right, nothing to do with him what happened.

born green wrote:Dont kno about the medicos, but i thort the flagie responded very qik to get that red flag out, he did his job right, nothing to do with him what happened.

Yeah quick but they dropped the stretcher
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article ... i-footage/

More interesting reading here......http://lapanchinadimariella.forumfree.it/?t=58446797

He had bigger problems than being dropped on the stretcher...

Get on this.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/rac ... ad67fa3908

For those of you not clicking here it is Verbatim

HOW is it that so many motorsports fans seem shocked when drivers and riders are killed on the racetrack?

What do they really expect from high-speed, close-proximity racing? And why do they think that both participants as well as spectators at some events sign waiver forms acknowledging the risk to their lives?

Whether it was the premature and gruesome deaths of Marco Simoncelli, Dan Wheldon, Daijiro Kato, Shoya Tomizawa, Roland Ratzenberger or Ayrton Senna, public reaction to this legitimised form of road carnage follows a trajectory that smacks of denial.

It's as though supporters can't face up to their complicity in how these young men came to die. They try to rationalise their dangerous thrill-seeking by saying the men died doing what they loved - and in the next breath they talk of "tragedy" and their disbelief when someone dies.

Simoncelli's fellow Honda rider, Dani Pedrosa, commented: "There are things that shouldn't happen, but this is sport".

Sport? Soon after Simoncelli's death the MotoGP safety officer claimed it was "unpreventable". Really? If deaths on the track are inevitable, how can we call it "sport"? Valentino Rossi is one rider who seems particularly conflicted about this.

After Tomizawa's death last year, Rossi said: "The rest means nothing when this happens". The rest presumably being the thrills, the adulation, the money. And now he's also lost his mate Simoncelli. If meaning hasn't been stripped from Rossi's career choice by now, it is hard to imagine what more it would take to make that happen.

Clearly, there are riders who themselves question the validity of their "sport". As MotoGP rider Andrea Dovizioso said last year: "You forget sometimes how easily something like this (death) can happen. Sometimes our sport is just too dangerous."

Dare to question the ethics of motorsports, though, and you risk being run over. Bemused by the flood of platitudes about Simoncelli's death - such as "five minutes of speed is equivalent to another person's lifetime" - I (foolishly) tweeted my doubts about the genuineness of this outpouring of grief and suggested the sport thrives on crashes.

To be sure, my sentiments could have been expressed more sensitively, but in the angry barrage of abuse that followed, it surprised me that no one could admit they actually enjoy the inherent dangers of track racing. To do so would obviously expose the inner ghoul of spectators. Time and again I was told that people don't watch for the crashes.

But it's not just squeamish women such as me (and I have seen more than enough road trauma in my life) who suspect that some people are getting off on the carnage.

Tim Dahlberg is an Associated Press sports writer who confirmed my worst suspicions: "Racing is a dangerous, dangerous sport. Always has been, which is a major part of its appeal.

"People come to watch racers risk their lives and flirt with danger. They slap high fives for a good wreck, strain to see replays of cars slamming into walls. Without crashes, racing would just be cars going around an oval in a chess match. Interesting, perhaps, but not thrilling enough to get people to watch."

So for those who now grieve for Simoncelli, ask yourselves: Isn't there perhaps just a speck of blood on your hands?


Be sure and vent your thoughts towards the author.
Thats just FUCKED.

I've Deleted, rewritten and deleted and rewritten my post almost a dozen times, and i cannot comprehend or construct a post that isn't completed full of expletives and CAPITALS and !!!!!!!'s its unbeliveable. What i wouldn't give to have a 5 minute phonecall with her.

in the same vein, why isnt this muppet trying to get horse racing banned?
or perhaps other dangerous sports, like lawn bowls? seriously, more people die playing lawn bowls than sky diving, snow boarding and white water rafting combined!

fucking nannies, fuck off and worry someone else

Rossi's career choice has had the meaning stripped from it? What about all the fat reporters who die of heart attacks sitting at their computers, or killed reporting from war zones? Surely life as a journalist has had all the meaning stripped from it!

On top of that, without motor sport, this halfwit would have had to find something else to write about this week. How can you question the validity of it, when you then use it for
your own benefit?

This is the problem with "cash for opinion" type reporters. Generally their opinion sucks.

She's a knob. Perhaps she should be told to keep her opinions to her herself when commenting on topics she doesn't understand. Back to school for her!

"......They slap high fives for a good wreck....."

Never in all my many years of competing and watching motorsport have I seen this.

Tim Dahlberg is an Associated Press sports writer who confirmed my worst suspicions: "Racing is a dangerous, dangerous sport. Always has been, which is a major part of its appeal.

"People come to watch racers risk their lives and flirt with danger. They slap high fives for a good wreck, strain to see replays of cars slamming into walls. Without crashes, racing would just be cars going around an oval in a chess match. Interesting, perhaps, but not thrilling enough to get people to watch."

I think she might have missed the point that this guy is talking about speedway, not proper racing. Oval racing is as boring as batshit, and it does take a crash to make it interesting.

laidback wrote:"......They slap high fives for a good wreck....."

Never in all my many years of competing and watching motorsport have I seen this.

Watch an American motor race, head to Bathurst for the 1000, plenty of examples. They even sell compilation videos of crashes for those who can't get enough

To be honest whilst I don't agree with the blood on the hands, isn't the idea that you want to get as close to the edge without stepping over? No one here wants to die or wants to see carnage where people are hurt (well not mentally adjusted people) but we do love to dance with death or at least watch it, for example some of Youtube's biggest hits are of people crashing or generally hurting themselves. Society is filled with morbid traits such "rubber necker" those who love to slow down as they pass a crash, why is that?

I think this author may have hit a nerve but if you reflect on the content, much of has some truth.

Nick

Naked Twin wrote:

laidback wrote:"......They slap high fives for a good wreck....."

Never in all my many years of competing and watching motorsport have I seen this.

Watch an American motor race, head to Bathurst for the 1000, plenty of examples. They even sell compilation videos of crashes for those who can't get enough

To be honest whilst I don't agree with the blood on the hands, isn't the idea that you want to get as close to the edge without stepping over? No one here wants to die or wants to see carnage where people are hurt (well not mentally adjusted people) but we do love to dance with death or at least watch it, for example some of Youtube's biggest hits are of people crashing or generally hurting themselves. Society is filled with morbid traits such "rubber necker" those who love to slow down as they pass a crash, why is that?

I think this author may have hit a nerve but if you reflect on the content, much of has some truth.

Nick

I have some 'best crashes' compilations and enjoy watching them but there is a lot of difference between watching riders/drivers escape death and 'slap high fives'.

the best crashes was not a judgmental thing, more an observation that this author was not as far off the mark as some would want to believe.

Having spent many an hour on the side of the fence as both a marshall and a spectator, at every crash I have attended, seen or been near at a motor racing event there have been cheers, spectators running from all directions to get a better look, at the more serious many are concerned but many are enjoying the "entertainment". Bad news sells, good news doesn't, people by nature are ambulance chasers, it is part of our genetic make up we shouldn't be ashamed or embarrassed by it. No one wants to see death, you want to see them escape near death experiences. Some of the biggest highs come from being on the edge, taking on fate and making it out the other side.