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				Helmet laws...and fatalities
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:44 pm
				by Smitty
				interesting this one
(from todays paper)
in 1999 Florida (USA) had a compulsory helmet law-
both rider and pillion had to wear helmets
(unlike 27 of the other US states where they were optional)
then
Clem Bush (yeah him is related to George Dubya) was governor
and signed a law...making helmets optional
the result? 
total motorcycle fatalities in 1999 were 22 (for the state of Florida)
but
in (calendar) 2005 there were 251 fatalities 
19 of those killed were wearing helmets 
all the other riders killed were NOT wearing helmets
now...and this is my opinion
given that there probably was an increase in the numbers of
riders/bikes since 1999 ('coz motorcycling is getting more popular)
part of the increase in fatalities would relate to that increase in riders
however
the rest of the increase in deaths must relate to riders previously
not being killed becoz they wore helmets... who are now dying
becoz they aren't
as I said...interesting
and maybe a conclusion...helmets save lives
cheers
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:54 pm
				by Duane
				any life silly enough to ride without a helmet dont deserve saving.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:02 pm
				by mike-s
				almost tempted to say make it optional for helmets and seatbelts, then watch the idiot levels in the population slowly decrease.
Oh aside from the draconianisms that'd kick in as a result too......
The world is full of idiots that the government has to save by legislating stupidly obvious things. I'd always wear a belt, same oes for a lid, i just dont want to risk getting hurt otherwise.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:27 pm
				by FrogZ
				mike-s wrote:almost tempted to say make it optional for helmets and seatbelts, then watch the idiot levels in the population slowly decrease.
Oh aside from the draconianisms that'd kick in as a result too......
The world is full of idiots that the government has to save by legislating stupidly obvious things. I'd always wear a belt, same oes for a lid, i just dont want to risk getting hurt otherwise.
GO MIKE, LOVE your work mate.
in fact 
MIKE FOR PM !!!
Wicked mate, do the same with the druggos and poofs too (oh shit now I done it) and idiots on murdercycles too 

 no ambos for us no more
Mike, you and my Uncle Kez mate !!
We have a prob with petrol sniffers in Rocky, Kez reckons no prob just issue the coppers with lighters....  fuggen classic !!
I know I should be concerned but it is not as if they are REAL people, they are only yanks....  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:13 pm
				by javaman
				I'm with mike. We could benefit from cleaner gene pool.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:48 pm
				by kellz
				well thats shows you common sense is uncommon.
mm head hiting road at 30mph aint gonna be pretty, atleast with a lid on you have some protection.
i feel naked when i ride without a helmet, ok that ride involbes backyard into garage. about 5 meters.
its habbit go to bike helmet on.
i agree with mike.
but lets make sure that these fatalaties cant sue against lack of legislation.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:16 pm
				by diesel
				i personally couldn't care less if they legislate or not, won't effect whether or not i wear a helmet.
but that wasn't ur point was it smitty. sorry.
yes helmets save lives and cows, buffalo and roos save skin. i know. i was missin a few patches for a while.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:42 pm
				by Neka79
				not only that..if i didnt  wear a lid when riding, it would mess up my hair!!
as for smitty, it dont matter to him..he obviously didnt wear a lid in his younger days, cos all his hair blew off!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:00 pm
				by ZX10R King
				I get enuff bugs on my visor, I wouldn't want them in my mouth    

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:05 pm
				by mrmina
				Neka79 wrote:not only that..if i didnt  wear a lid when riding, it would mess up my hair!!
That is one of my major problems 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:08 pm
				by mrmina
				On a serious note, what happens if a rock hits u in the eye or u have a sand truck up ahead and sand is blowing back into ur eyes and u have to close them cos something has gotten in ur eyes.
Eyes are very important. i wouldnt risk them.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:14 pm
				by diesel
				OMG!
is it true?
could it be?
surely not.
did mina make a constructive point?
i.....i....yes.....i think he did.
quick spread the word.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:18 pm
				by mrmina
				diesel wrote:OMG!
is it true?
could it be?
surely not.
did mina make a constructive point?
i.....i....yes.....i think he did.
quick spread the word.
sorry dont know what come over me
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:09 pm
				by Smitty
				mrmina wrote: dont know what come over me
ummm...neka..????
hehehe 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:11 pm
				by Smitty
				Neka79 wrote:
as for smitty, it dont matter to him..he obviously didnt wear a lid in his younger days, cos all his hair blew off!
yeah nath....
just a fraction too much friction 
