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Even the government is saying our roads are shit
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:25 am
by mike-s
linky, somehow im not surprised that NSW shied the hell away from supplying data for the survey though.... asshats
And the worst roads
Two per cent of the AusLink road system was rated at two stars.
These worst stretches include:
* The Calder Highway between Kyneton and Bendigo and the Western Highway, between Ararat and Stawell, in Victoria.
* The Bruce Highway, south of Gympie, Queensland.
* The Sturt Highway, west of Renmark, and the Dukes Highway, south-east of Yumali, in South Australia.
* The Great Eastern Highway near Northam, the Great Northern Highway near Bindi Bindi and the Perth-Bunbury Highway between Warnbro and Binningup in Western Australia.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:46 am
by Glen
If shit NSW roads were listed they'd need to kill a rainforest to supply the paper for the report.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 8:52 am
by Stereo
I am sitting in my office listening to the thumping of some heavy machinery digging up the road that I work on (gladstone st in sth melbourne)...
Our Road was complete shit a few months ago.... It had deep potholes all over the place, the rest was completely crap, with patches everywhere and even the bits that werent patched were rubbish...
4 months ago they tore up the road and put down a gorgeous bit of work...
3 months ago the needed access to some underground piping so cut approximately 12 1mX1m holes in the road and patched them up (pretty badly if you ask me)
2 weeks ago they needed access to something under the road again so ripped up a 4m x 2m trench.... which they filled up with rocks but never covered
1 week ago they needed something approximately 2 metres to the right of it and dug another hole and filled it up with rocks and crap
now, they have decided to dig a 1m wide trench the entire length of the road....
Meanwhile a sign proudly states that this is a project of the local council with the slogan "The road to recovery"....
So to sum up, 4 months after getting a new road.... we have a shit road again...
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:53 am
by aardvark
I still maintain that the poor condition of some roads isn't to blame. If everyone road/drove to the conditions instead of blindly accepting that the posted speed limit is acceptable, then there wouldn't be a problem.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:20 am
by mick_dundee
Stereo wrote:I am sitting in my office listening to the thumping of some heavy machinery digging up the road that I work on (gladstone st in sth melbourne)...
Our Road was complete shit a few months ago.... It had deep potholes all over the place, the rest was completely crap, with patches everywhere and even the bits that werent patched were rubbish...
[Heap of stuff about roadworks here]
So to sum up, 4 months after getting a new road.... we have a shit road again...
that seems to happen fairly often actually, at least in Victoria, seems there is no communication between Vic roads, councils and the various utility cmpanies, of which the worse is Telstra (IMO) as they forever cover their holes with steel plates that have absolutely NO traction in the dry and are an ice rink in the wet...
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:36 am
by Stereo
aardvark wrote:I still maintain that the poor condition of some roads isn't to blame. If everyone road/drove to the conditions instead of blindly accepting that the posted speed limit is acceptable, then there wouldn't be a problem.
You are talking about driver education........ Hmm...
I dont think I have seen a single add on tv for driver education that wasnt about drunk driving...
In NZ I remember
1. Indicate 3 seconds before changing lanes
2. Zip when you merge
3. Dont brake too late
4. Leave room behind the car in front (the two second rule)
And a whole bunch of more.... I wish they would do some of those ads over here...
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:26 pm
by Glen
aardvark wrote:I still maintain that the poor condition of some roads isn't to blame. If everyone road/drove to the conditions instead of blindly accepting that the posted speed limit is acceptable, then there wouldn't be a problem.
True enough but our roads are still shittier then they should be, particularly in a state where 3 cents per every litre of fuel is supposed to be going directly into roads maintenance and upgrading.
In six years of living at Kellyvile I've bent, buckled or cracked 4 car rims from shitty potholes that exist on major access roads into the area. This is largely because our incompetent state government pockets developers fee's and stamp duty on land sales at inflated values and then worries about infrastructure when it's too late.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:38 pm
by red_dave
aardvark wrote:I still maintain that the poor condition of some roads isn't to blame. If everyone road/drove to the conditions instead of blindly accepting that the posted speed limit is acceptable, then there wouldn't be a problem.
You haven't driven/ridden down the Parramatta road motorcross track have you...
I rode down it the other day - probably wont be able to ever have kids now.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:40 pm
by Colette
red_dave wrote:aardvark wrote:I still maintain that the poor condition of some roads isn't to blame. If everyone road/drove to the conditions instead of blindly accepting that the posted speed limit is acceptable, then there wouldn't be a problem.
You haven't driven/ridden down the Parramatta road motorcross track have you...
I rode down it the other day - probably wont be able to ever have kids now.

I know, what a shocker of a road that is! I can never decide which side of the seismic fault line to ride on

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:24 pm
by mike-s
Ardy, admittedly some people just cannot drive for shit, then there's the roads themselves, some are absolutely FARKED. Admittedly one road that springs to mind is the roads around the lane cove tunnel. Admittedly they are doingroadworks, so its a patch job while they build roads, redirect roads and generally move shit around. Used to be abolutely shit with wild 40' direction changes of the road enforced by 1.5m concrete barriers 5cm past the white line. dont pay attention for a couple of secons and you'd eat concrete. the worst part is you get used to the road layout being one way, then they'd change it again, so far it's happened about 5 times on that roadway.
All i can say is bring on the end of constructionas im f*in over it and ive only been going that way to work for just on 3 months now.
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:59 pm
by Gosling1
aardvark wrote:I still maintain that the poor condition of some roads isn't to blame. If everyone road/drove to the conditions instead of blindly accepting that the posted speed limit is acceptable, then there wouldn't be a problem.
OK, I guess we can all drive at the 20-30kmh that would constitute 'safe' driving on the worst sections of road, take 3 hours to do a trip that should take 1/2 an hour, and we will all be happy..........
Bullshit.
If the government that supplies the roads and then also determines the posted limits on those same roads, then that same government have an
absolute duty of care to ensure that those roads are safe to drive on at the posted limits.
Its as simple as that. We pay our rego and taxes and everything else, they don't ensure the roads are safe to drive at posted limits, and we are meant to slow down because of statutory negligience ????
Incompetence of Office is not an excuse.
rant over.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:19 pm
by L3raven
You should check our roads now they aint bad but need more corners

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:01 pm
by MickLC
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:09 pm
by Adel
not to mention we been paying for these roads, wheres the money goin
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:08 pm
by Neka79
im sick of paying his mrs child support!!