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Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:40 pm
by seiko1
Australian Refugee V's Aged Pensioners
Are you aware of the following?
The Australian Federal Government provides the following financial assistance:-
BENEFIT
Weekly allowance
$253.00 AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER
$472.50 OVERSEAS REFUGEE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA
Weekly Spouse allowance
$56.00 AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER
$472.50 OVERSEAS REFUGEE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA
Additional weekly hardship allowance
$0.00 AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER
$145.00 OVERSEAS REFUGEE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT
$16,068.00 AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER
$56,680.00 OVERSEAS REFUGEE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA
I don’t know about you, but I think this is wrong.
If I was a refugee, why would I look for work?
After all, the average pensioner has only paid taxes and contributed to the growth of this country
for the last 40 – 60 years.

Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:51 pm
by Jonno
How accurate and factual is that statement?
Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:02 pm
by seiko1
Jonno wrote:How accurate and factual is that statement?
Well not so young Pete in the front office here worked at Centrelink 20 yr's and he trying to confirm as we speak (so to speak

)
I'll keep you posted.
That info was recieved in an e-mail just b4 I posted and since I am in no way responsible, I posted it.

Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:04 pm
by seiko1
Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:41 pm
by Jonno
seiko1 wrote: since I am in no way responsible
Aint that the truth
Sounds like it originated in the USA 2004 and adapted for Oz after travelling to Canada and various other places.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/refugees.asp
Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:10 pm
by Six Addict
massive hoax, shit like this pisses me off!!!

Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:27 pm
by robracer
Six Addict wrote:massive hoax, shit like this pisses me off!!!

What the fact that there might be a little truth to it or the fact that we are about to be overun by refugees

Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:42 pm
by Jonno
Yeah, come and get stimulated in KruddLand

Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:29 pm
by Six Addict
robracer wrote:Six Addict wrote:massive hoax, shit like this pisses me off!!!

What the fact that there might be a little truth to it or the fact that we are about to be overun by refugees

that fact that pople peddle this shit...
i've honestly got no solution to refugees/asylum seekers/boat people... cos if i lived in their situation i'd wanna get the fuck outta it too!!
Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:58 am
by seiko1
Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:28 pm
by Nosferatu
Six Addict wrote:robracer wrote:Six Addict wrote:massive hoax, shit like this pisses me off!!!

What the fact that there might be a little truth to it or the fact that we are about to be overun by refugees

that fact that pople peddle this shit...
i've honestly got no solution to refugees/asylum seekers/boat people...
cos if i lived in their situation i'd wanna get the fuck outta it too!!
if their country is so shit, why don't they do something about it instead of lumping all of their problems onto another country? its a fact that refugees go to
ANY other country, and take their language, religion, ideals, credo,
PROBLEMS with them, and then expect the donor country to welcome them with open arms, pay them, give them housing, jobs, cars, clothes, food, etc etc, let them live in their
OWN communities where they DONT speak the language of the country giving them all of these benefits, and THEN have the gall to complain that they are mistreated by the people who actually GIVE them all of these entitlements. I'm not saying that it is ALL of them, but have a look around and you will soon see what i mean.
Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:35 pm
by seiko1
Hi Cath and Tim

Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:48 pm
by tim
Nosferatu wrote: I'm not saying that it is ALL of them, but have a look around and you will soon see what i mean.
I have no idea, I've never seen it! Am I sheltered living in lower-middle class immigrant-heavy blacktown?
What have you seen, some particular cases?
None of our families have been here much over 200 years, just a few generations.
We have the right to determine who lives here, but not the right to send people back to their country to be persecuted or die.
Tim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_asylum
Modern political asylum
The United Nations 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees and the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees guides national legislation concerning political asylum. Under these agreements, a refugee (or for cases where repressing base means has been applied directly or environmentally to the defoule' refugee) is a person who is outside their own country's territory (or place of habitual residence if stateless) owing to fear of persecution on protected grounds. Protected grounds include race, nationality, religion, political opinions and membership and/or participation in any particular social group or social activities.
Re: Pensioners V's Refugees
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:52 pm
by tim
Oh, Hi Seiko!
