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Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:59 pm
by photomike666
I've acquired a set-up manual published by Performance Bikes a little while ago, and am posting the info below.

Bikes covered are:
ZX6R(98-99)
ZX6R(00-01)
ZX7R(96-03)
ZX9R(98-99)
ZX9R(00-01)

These are the only Kwaks listed, but there are other makes avail, list posted also. PM me if you want further info or settings.

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:50 pm
by Smitty
top stuff.
and I will add....

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:45 pm
by Jonno
Good stuff Smithy, great explaination for a confusing subject. 8)

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:51 pm
by Yankee
awesome that it is explained on my bike... therefore, even i can't screw it up!
would those first numbers (clicks) be for a certain weight rider??

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:55 pm
by redzedx7r
:) great work fellas thanks :wink:

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:05 pm
by red_dave
Sweet... 8)

Great info guys...

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:27 pm
by tape
Now can you find that info for the beastly GPz900R cos I can't...

If anyone can find a manual for the 900R please let me know.

cheers

Re: re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:58 pm
by Smitty
tape wrote:Now can you find that info for the beastly GPz900R cos I can't...
start with a museum.....
hehehe

seriously tape..
that sorta stuff is not available for our machinery
which is a pity....

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:17 pm
by mrmina
Sorry guys but i reckon that doing ur suspension to a certain article or recommendation is a load of shit. Even if the best riders recommend it.

Suspension is to be setup how u want it. After getting my shocker done and having been reading books upon books, articles after articles, spoke to suspension pro's.... i have found out that suspension is not a black art, its not magic or confusing. Its simple hooks law and physics.

Suspension is how u want it and what u feel comfortable with. Some like it hard, some like soft. Different conditions (road/track) demand different settings.

U can use a general rule of thumb as per the articles for prelaod, but for compression or damping its how quick or how slow u want the suspension to act. What ur happy with and not what someone else is happy with.

As for the setting listed above for the 7r its a load of shit for someone my size. Also to have the rebound on 3 or 4 ur gonna do ur back riding the bike on the road.

Just my 2c.

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:31 pm
by idh959
sorry to revive this threat but just wanted to check if the number of clicks noted in the specs means clicks down from max position.

Your right about setup being personal preference but at least this gives us a starting point or a point of reference.

re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:37 am
by MadKaw
I somewhat agree, more so with the preload settings though as they give some of them in static sag. This is based on the bike weight only and doesn't take into account rider weight. The sag should always be set with the rider on board and be around 30mm to 35mm front and rear (for the road) 25 to 30mm (for the track). There is no set rule though and its personal preferance.

If you can't get these figures you need to consider different spring rates.

Setting preload with just the bike weight can give varied results as a lot of adjustment doesn't make much difference, put a rider on the bike and the adjustment differences are visible.

Re: re: Suspension setup figures

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:05 am
by Steve_TLS
mrmina wrote:Sorry guys but i reckon that doing ur suspension to a certain article or recommendation is a load of shit. Even if the best riders recommend it.

Suspension is to be setup how u want it. After getting my shocker done and having been reading books upon books, articles after articles, spoke to suspension pro's.... i have found out that suspension is not a black art, its not magic or confusing. Its simple hooks law and physics.

Suspension is how u want it and what u feel comfortable with. Some like it hard, some like soft. Different conditions (road/track) demand different settings.

U can use a general rule of thumb as per the articles for prelaod, but for compression or damping its how quick or how slow u want the suspension to act. What ur happy with and not what someone else is happy with.

As for the setting listed above for the 7r its a load of shit for someone my size. Also to have the rebound on 3 or 4 ur gonna do ur back riding the bike on the road.

Just my 2c.
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There's no such thing as generic settings. You have 100's of incorrect settings available to you and one correct one.

You have to find it for yourself. I liked this article a lot and got permission to repoduce it here >> http://home.iprimus.com.au/stevebm/suspension.htm