. . . Whats that for
SNELL ??? ( helmet )
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ZZRCHIKKY
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SNELL ??? ( helmet )
On the back of my dads helmet , next to the australian standars sticker is a black and white sticker that says SNELL APROVED DOT . . .
. . . Whats that for
. . . Whats that for
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Re: SNELL ??? ( helmet )
testing criteria mainly used in the yewessofhayZZRCHIKKY wrote:On the back of my dads helmet , next to the australian standars sticker is a black and white sticker that says SNELL APROVED DOT . . .. . . Whats that for
see their site- http://www.smf.org/testing.html
The Australian standard test for helmets is one of the tuffest in the world
even tougher then the US DOT or original SNELL test!
although SNELL now have an impact pentration test as part of
their testing so I guess the SNELL test are on a par with the Australian
standard (see the tests - http://www.smf.org/stds.html )
hth
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mick_dundee
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Think many would argue the differnce between Snell and ADR testing Smithy, most ppl I know would go the Snell over the ADR any day, having said that, it's of course not a legal lid without an ADR sticker..
That preference is carried over into the poushbike world too.
That preference is carried over into the poushbike world too.
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And just for info, here's a post I made in the old KSRC forum (probably before some of you were born). It's not totally relevant to the question asked, but stiff shit. 
"As I have previously mentioned, I was looking at importing a helmet from the U.S. It's a model that is already sold here, and is both DOT and Snell approved.
I had some simple questions. Could I legally import it? Could I use it? And what be the legal/insurance consequences of using the helmet within Australia.
Shouldn't be too hard to find out you'd think? Think again... here's what happened.
Spoke to the traffic adjudication people of my local Police. Their response was that as far as they knew, a helmet had to meet Australian Standards, but they had no idea if a helmet being imported (one the same as a model already sold here) could be used? (Keeping in mind that it must have the AS sticker for it to be able to be used.)
So, ring and speak to the Dept. of Transport. Spoke to 2 people there before being given the number of Standards Australia. Spoke to 2 people there, who had no idea, and gave me the number of NATA (National Australian Testing Agency, or something to that effect). Spoke to someone there, who said that they'd have someone return my call. The person who returned my call said he didn't know, and that I should speak to the RTA Crash Lab in Sydney (The people who test all helmet batches being imported.) Spoke to a bloke there who wasn't sure, so in the end was put through to Derek. What a legend. After 3 days of stuffing around, he gave me the low down. And, bare with me, I know this is getting lengthy, here is the end result.
In simple terms, the answer is NO! You cannot legally ride with an imported helmet, and you have no recourse as far as insurance is concerned if you do wear one and suffer brain damage etc. in an accident!
I wanted to know, why this would be the case. Especially since the helmet is the same model as one sold here, and meets Snell and DOT approvals.
Firstly, Australian Standards require that helmets sold in Australia have certain penetration capabilities. They use a 3kg spike and drop it on the helmet from 3 foot or some such thing. Snell and DOT testing does not incorporate this.
The helmets are manufactured and imported in batches. Each batch destined for Australia (1,000 helmets, 10,000 helmets, who knows?) must be tested, and the Australian Standard approval is assigned for that batch only. As Derek explained, manufacturers often change the density of inner liners, shells, and even the composition of helmet components. So, each batch has to be individually tested.
The standard is also a test of the process of importing the helmet and the Q.A. involved with that process.
So, I asked, can I get a helmet tested. Well, yes. But, 8 helmets must be tested out of a given batch and testing costs are likely to cost several thousand dollars. Let me give you the strong tip. I ain't buying 9 helmets, just so I can wear one.
Anyway, that's where the saga ends. Anyone thinking they might like to import a helmet from overseas, think again. If you still want to do it, consider the insurance and legal consequences."
"As I have previously mentioned, I was looking at importing a helmet from the U.S. It's a model that is already sold here, and is both DOT and Snell approved.
I had some simple questions. Could I legally import it? Could I use it? And what be the legal/insurance consequences of using the helmet within Australia.
Shouldn't be too hard to find out you'd think? Think again... here's what happened.
Spoke to the traffic adjudication people of my local Police. Their response was that as far as they knew, a helmet had to meet Australian Standards, but they had no idea if a helmet being imported (one the same as a model already sold here) could be used? (Keeping in mind that it must have the AS sticker for it to be able to be used.)
So, ring and speak to the Dept. of Transport. Spoke to 2 people there before being given the number of Standards Australia. Spoke to 2 people there, who had no idea, and gave me the number of NATA (National Australian Testing Agency, or something to that effect). Spoke to someone there, who said that they'd have someone return my call. The person who returned my call said he didn't know, and that I should speak to the RTA Crash Lab in Sydney (The people who test all helmet batches being imported.) Spoke to a bloke there who wasn't sure, so in the end was put through to Derek. What a legend. After 3 days of stuffing around, he gave me the low down. And, bare with me, I know this is getting lengthy, here is the end result.
In simple terms, the answer is NO! You cannot legally ride with an imported helmet, and you have no recourse as far as insurance is concerned if you do wear one and suffer brain damage etc. in an accident!
I wanted to know, why this would be the case. Especially since the helmet is the same model as one sold here, and meets Snell and DOT approvals.
Firstly, Australian Standards require that helmets sold in Australia have certain penetration capabilities. They use a 3kg spike and drop it on the helmet from 3 foot or some such thing. Snell and DOT testing does not incorporate this.
The helmets are manufactured and imported in batches. Each batch destined for Australia (1,000 helmets, 10,000 helmets, who knows?) must be tested, and the Australian Standard approval is assigned for that batch only. As Derek explained, manufacturers often change the density of inner liners, shells, and even the composition of helmet components. So, each batch has to be individually tested.
The standard is also a test of the process of importing the helmet and the Q.A. involved with that process.
So, I asked, can I get a helmet tested. Well, yes. But, 8 helmets must be tested out of a given batch and testing costs are likely to cost several thousand dollars. Let me give you the strong tip. I ain't buying 9 helmets, just so I can wear one.
Anyway, that's where the saga ends. Anyone thinking they might like to import a helmet from overseas, think again. If you still want to do it, consider the insurance and legal consequences."
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It's alsso German for fast but has absolutely NOTHNG to do with this thread.... you trying to take over from Mina as (he who posts most crap!!)???Stereo wrote:SNEL is dutch for "fast".....
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I thought you'd be in the running for that title Mickmick_dundee wrote:It's alsso German for fast but has absolutely NOTHNG to do with this thread.... you trying to take over from Mina as (he who posts most crap!!)???Stereo wrote:SNEL is dutch for "fast".....
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Mick "Snelly Helmet" DundeeStace wrote:I thought you'd be in the running for that title Mickmick_dundee wrote:It's alsso German for fast but has absolutely NOTHNG to do with this thread.... you trying to take over from Mina as (he who posts most crap!!)???Stereo wrote:SNEL is dutch for "fast".....
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dickheadmrmina wrote:That would be "shnell" not "snell" dickheadmick_dundee wrote:It's alsso German for fastStereo wrote:SNEL is dutch for "fast".....
get it right
its.... 'schnell'
german for...quicken ze pace or go faster
and one for you
'mach schnell'
means accelerate.......... as in twist the throttle
makes ya bike go faster
cheers
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