will this engine fit?

1993zx6d · Post by **1993zx6d** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:10 pm

hello everyone.ive never posted on any forums before only read in them.i have looked everywhere for this info but cant find it so i thought id ask you bikesmart people. i have a 1993 zx6d that i bought that has two spun rod bearings.i have purchased (but not recieved yet)an engine off ebay it is off of an 1996zx6e. i was told that it would fit by the seller.however someone else has told me afterwords that they were different.can you guys help me out and tell me that these are the same engines? if they arent what will i have to change to get it to fit? thanks a lot

FrogZ · Post by **FrogZ** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:55 am

You can make anything fit if your keen enough, I have seen some big things squeesaed in some little places

I am sure someone here is familiar with those years, but good chance they will be a little different. Until it turns up it will all be conjecture.
When you sit it in you will find out what spacers/offsets you will need.

Duane · Post by **Duane** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:44 am

the spot light in the sky is calling I-K

mick_dundee · Post by **mick_dundee** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:27 am

Duane wrote:the spot light in the sky is calling I-K

Or Gosmeister or Smitty I reckon, the old farts should know a bit about these things

Ratmick · Post by **Ratmick** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:24 pm

mick_dundee wrote:
Duane wrote:the spot light in the sky is calling I-K
Or Gosmeister or Smitty I reckon, the old farts should know a bit about these things

Too recent for both. Smitty cut his teeth on the Kawasakisaurus Zeta-II back in the day of Aristotle when things were powered by the feet Flintstones-style.

Gos has had two of those, plus every second Kawasaki model between 300BC and the late 1970s.

1993zx6d · Post by **1993zx6d** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:13 am

well,all that stuff you guys say exept for the first guy is stupid and makes no sinse.i dont know why when someone asks a normal question you would come on and say somthing like that.i guess im just new to this stuff and dont know how it all works or somthing.hmmm

Rossi · Post by **Rossi** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:17 am

The first guy is actually saying ........IF you have the time,patience and money you can make anything fit.

This forum also survives on the usual routine of piss taking and attempted humour but as you are new to forums it will take you time to get used to us

1993zx6d · Post by **1993zx6d** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:09 am

YES I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS SAYING AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MADE ANY SINSE AND I APPRECIATE HIS WORDS OF WISDOM BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF THIS WILL FIT WITHOUT FABRICATION.THANKS TO ANYONE THAT HAS THE INFO THAT WILL HELP ME OUT.

mike-s · Post by **mike-s** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:00 pm

*points to the capslock key*

there, that any better?

FrogZ · Post by **FrogZ** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:30 pm

See the thing is 1993zx6d that the only way anyone will know this is if they have done the exact swap you are talking about

Mate the chances are VERY VERY slim, AND I know that
but I HAVE (honestly) put a lot of big motors in a lot of things that were not meant to take it.
Every one was different and there was not one that I could guess on unitl we sat the motor in where it was going to sit.
I have sat down with scale drawing and micrometres but you wont KNOW until you have a go.
IF these motors BOTH have mounts that the swingarm bolt goes through and the offsets are difference you WILL have problems, but NOT insurmountable. Engine mounts dont match, cut em out and move em or make new ones.

I honestly just cant see anyone having done the swap before so I doubt anyone will know for certain. Now if you had have said a 9 motor into a 6 or a 12 into a 7 well...

I-K · Post by **I-K** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:56 pm

Duane wrote:the spot light in the sky is calling I-K

...and he's staying out of the discussion because the OP is turning out to be an uppity prick.

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:22 pm

I-K wrote:
Duane wrote:the spot light in the sky is calling I-K
...and he's staying out of the discussion because the OP is turning out to be an uppity prick.

yes he is isnt he - not everyone will know the answer, you just have to wait until someone that know stumbles along

now firstly the zx6d was the forerunner to the e but the first e appeared in the 93 model year - hence the first e's would have been produced around 11/92............so yours cant be a 93 - d model.....see.

if yours is a 93, chances are its and e model and yest it will fit. check your compliance plate to confirm

should be an E1 if its manufactured anything after 11/92.

hammer · Post by **hammer** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:17 pm

Geeezzzzz IK don`t they pay you enuff round here?
It cost that newb alot to join this forum, now do ya job and answer his question

FrogZ · Post by **FrogZ** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:51 pm

So did the 93 and the 96 have the same motor?
I'm interested

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:21 pm

Same engine all the way through, I think. Definitely from 93 to the end (05?), and as Phil says, if it's really a 93, it's an E. Interesting factoid: the ZZR600 engine bolts into a ZXR400 ...

The E got ram air, which was the main difference. It progressively got (marginally) better suspension on the front, too.

I believe the only things to watch would be airbox and carbs swapping in an E motor into a D (keep the gear from the D), but I could be wrong. Cams might be a different grind. I've kept quiet 'cos a) I thought ol' matey would get a nice surprise when he discovers that the "new" engine's identical to his old, and b) 'cos I'm actually not 100% positive that the differences mentioned above are the only ones.

Easy way of telling an E - look for the intake in the front fairing. The E3 (11/94) got preload adjustment added to rebound, and in 98(?) they got uprated springs in the forks.