KSRC Rider Sponsor - Show of interest

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:48 pm

Im all for sponsoring someone however I would prefer the person to be someone with loads of talent that is being overlooked by corporate sponsors, and that really needs $$ to carry on and will be grateful to recieve any amount to replace tyres/pay for fuel etc whether it is $500 or $5,000.
Those who have already got sponsorship, in my opinion, should not be needing money from an unofficial club.

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:05 pm

lots of opinions, and i agree with a lot of points. Rememember we dont need to raise millions...if we pick a struggling rider, he should be happy with ANYTHING to help his cause..$500 is a set of tyres (isnt it??) and 1 expense he wouldnt have to worry abt....evebn if we paid for a set for each race meet...??

Dave- maybe set up a private donation pledge type thing, so each of us can put in how much we can offer- known only to u, not to the whole group...

I think choosing a up and coming rider to support & sponsor is a great idea, tho it WOULD be nice to support sum1 who was our freind BEFORE we offered him money....

Whats it cost to run in the sbk/SS class for a year??.... is it feasible to be a major sponsor??

RG · Post by RG » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:51 am

Neka79 wrote:..$500 is a set of tyres (isnt it??) and 1 expense he wouldnt have to worry abt....

$500 is also enough to get a decent helmet, I don't think riders throw away helmets after every race...

les2010 · Post by **les2010** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:11 am

A while ago I suggested to Admin that we carry a laminated card as members so we might recognise one another or maybe be able to show various shops that we are card carrying members so we could organise discounts and such at participating shops I was told in no uncertain terms that the KSRC was a fun club not a card carrying club and would never become one, so forget the card carrying idea unless something has changed since then, do we remain a non monetary club or do we now organise ourselves into a full blown club with a Pres, Sec, Treasurer and such, ya gotta remember people that once money starts flowing into KSRC coffers and sponsorships are offered we are no longer the free club we are now but must become a registered club with all the pains in the arse that goes with it, there are legalities involved here not just a case of "give us $20 each so we can give it to this guy or that guy", Admin will have to account for the cash flowing into its coffers to cover its arse just in case.
Les

Jonno · Post by **Jonno** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:59 am

I agree, top idea.

Must be on a KAWASAKI, become a member and promote the club, as Les2010 mentioned serious dollars needs serious consideration on how we manage the club as whole and this may be a sticky issue.....

Personally I would rather sponsor the existing members who are up and coming and serious about achieving the best that they can be, even being for tyres only in the early stages.
When they get into the state champs we could offer more.
I have even considered helping a certain Qld'er out with a set of tyres but funds are not sufficient enough atm.

Still I will be willing to donate to what most have suggested and will go along with a majority vote if exposure to KSRC is that important and what you really want.

Post by **MadKaw** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:02 am

les2010 wrote:, do we remain a non monetary club or do we now organise ourselves into a full blown club with a Pres, Sec, Treasurer and such, ya gotta remember people that once money starts flowing into KSRC coffers and sponsorships are offered we are no longer the free club we are now but must become a registered club with all the pains in the arse that goes with it, there are legalities involved here not just a case of "give us $20 each so we can give it to this guy or that guy", Admin will have to account for the cash flowing into its coffers to cover its arse just in case.
Les

Interesting, so can you expand on the legalities that will force us to become a registered club if ppl donate money to sponsor a rider..

If I gave John Smith, $1000 and said put my sticker on your bike and wear this shirt, apart from me having an "agreement" with John Smith what legal responsabilties are required..
Worse case scenario, he doesn't do it and we loose the $, but he will have 1000 angry ppl looking out for him. Much worse and a lot cheaper for us than a solicitor.

Lets not over complicate this, as is with most things, if this goes ahead it has to be based on the trust of both the person collecting the $ and the rider chosen.
If ppl want a receipt for there donation for tax purposes, then forget it. If ppl are happy enough to donate the $ and trust the collector to do the right thing then whats the issue.?
The only agreement that needs to be put in place is with the rider and as to what they will do for the $ given. This can be a written agreement with an individual (which is therefore a legal document).
This is just a social club helping out a young rider, no one is forced to be involved.

Anyway, thats what this is thread is for. Lets put up all the pros and cons, get a level of interest and see what happens.

red_dave · Post by **red_dave** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:03 am

Still in...

Just gotta tell me who's bra to tuck the cash into.

damo137 · Post by **damo137** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:08 am

I will definately put in my support for a rider. Needs to ride a kwaka though....

photomike666 · Post by **photomike666** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:29 am

Something also in need of consideration is how far the level of interest is going to go. It's all very well saying we all chuck in a lobster, but is that going to be enough to help a rider's ongoing season. If only 50 people chuck in $20, that $1000 won't go very far, but $10 a month will give the rider $500 a month to help fund their racing. This would give us better leverage on KSRC placement and size within the bike livery, and it's not like $10 a month will break the bank.

I agree a young talented rider who is lacking support is the way to go, and there needs to be some decent exposure for the club. I think it will be a hard balance between getting what is good for the club and what the club can afford in terms of which series, and level of rider.

Glen · Post by **Glen** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:14 am

I think it's a great idea that has the potential to be really badly screwed up by overcomplication. I can't see that there are any real legalities unless someone wants to create them.

If we simply want to generate some interest and relatively cheap advertising for the club then what better way to do it then throwing a few bucks (on a totally voluntary, no strings attached basis) at a developing rider. Hell it gives us something to cheer for and how good would it be to see a big KSRC sticker on the side of someones bike.

I wouldn't suggest any recognition for those that want to kick bucks in other than the warm fuzzy feeling you get from knowing you've helped. I would worry that acknowledgement then provides some sort of financial/non financial distinction about the club and that really isn't what this place is about.

The only issue really is how much we could raise and picking the right guy to toss it at. If we did it once a year then if we don't get value we change horses the following year.

Post by **icebreaker** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:02 am

I think now it prob the best time to do this, as we can get geared up for next seasons racing...

I don't know what this has to get complicated.. But there have to be certain ground rules.

If people want to throw their hat in so far as contacting people, I guess that is ok, but no one is representing KSRC in doing so, they should really only be getting some details for Dave or whoever to follow up.. I personally don't want to see this turn into a circus...

Ok. So..

1. Lets start with next seasons start date??? Anyone... This would give is a time frame.

2. Perhaps we could settle on class/level to narrow things down. Are we talking local or are we talking at a national level.

I'll have a chat to Dave about it, but do we have a list of contenders that we could start to look at, nothing serious.. Just a list of names of confirmed Kwaka riders for '07... nothing more.

Dan

tape · Post by **tape** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:19 am

les2010 wrote:A while ago I suggested to Admin that we carry a laminated card as members so we might recognise one another or maybe be able to show various shops that we are card carrying members so we could organise discounts and such at participating shops I was told in no uncertain terms that the KSRC was a fun club not a card carrying club and would never become one, so forget the card carrying idea unless something has changed since then, do we remain a non monetary club or do we now organise ourselves into a full blown club with a Pres, Sec, Treasurer and such, ya gotta remember people that once money starts flowing into KSRC coffers and sponsorships are offered we are no longer the free club we are now but must become a registered club with all the pains in the arse that goes with it, there are legalities involved here not just a case of "give us $20 each so we can give it to this guy or that guy", Admin will have to account for the cash flowing into its coffers to cover its arse just in case.
Les

WTF ??? We are trying to help a young up and comming rider by throwing some $$ his/her way for their use in what way they judge best. We aren't managing their race program, there are no legal ramifications for a sponsor if they do the wrong thing or worse.

Why complicate this? If you don't want to be involved for your own reasons then choose not to, personally I will get a warm fuzzy feeling that I as apart of my KSRC mates have made a difference to someone in our sport. If the Admins decide to put a smiley next to your sig for helping out then well and fine no biggie.

Dave (MadKaw) should be the one sussing out who to back, he should also be the one the funding gets channeled through. If he needs help with it I'm sure he'll ask.

Lets just keep this as a few mates chucking in a few bucks to help out a young fella/sheila

who rides a KWAKKA that they'll maybe turn up to a track day or even a BBQ.

cheers and let's doi it.....

Lainie · Post by **Lainie** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:27 am

I am with u guys and as Dan said, when we do a ride day even get togethers have a gold coin donation as well. The money will still start to add up and also as Mike said perhaps throw in a few bucks each month. Not everyone has to throw in every month. I am sure bewteen all the members here we can come up with some good $$$

RG · Post by RG » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:31 am

Lainie wrote:...I am sure bewteen all the members here we can come up with some good $$$

Powerball jackpot to $12million next Thursday.
Let me win it and I'll chip in $50 everyday

for 1 week

Lainie · Post by **Lainie** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:33 am

RG wrote:
Lainie wrote:...I am sure bewteen all the members here we can come up with some good $$$
Powerball jackpot to $12million next Thursday.
Let me win it and I'll chip in $50 everyday for 1 week

only a week

A week of every month for 10 years