Waste of time and money?

Paz · Post by **Paz** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:16 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TRE-Kawasaki-ZX1 ... dZViewItem

Does anybody know much about these things, is it just a gimmick thats going to waste my time and money?

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:14 pm

Paz wrote:.... is it just a gimmick thats going to waste my time and money?

Depends on how you use your bike. If you ride at 11/10th's everywhere, are a track-day junkie of the highest order, and really need the extra couple of HP that a TRE offers in the lower gears, then you need one yesterday.

Otherwise, I guess its only $70, so you aren't going to waste *too* much money ....

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:39 pm

umm i could be wrong, but isnt this similar to what suzuki did with the TLR ??

and didnt average Joe go into dick smiths or tandy, buy sum $3 part and do the same thing himself??

dont buy it till uve heard wot the knowlegdeable ones on here comment..

bassmaniac69 · Post by **bassmaniac69** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:08 pm

Neka79 wrote:umm i could be wrong, but isnt this similar to what suzuki did with the TLR ??

Spot on Neka, same principal and works the same apparently. I have ridden a TLR with and without the mod and it did make a difference - the power was more tractable and smoother for my mind. Was it any faster? I suppose because of the smoother power it was, but it didn't really feel any faster to my butt!

Stretchy · Post by **Stretchy** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:17 am

It only smoothes out throttle response, does not give any real good horsepower gain.

Not needed on the track, good for street riding where progresive throttle is needed.

Go to http://www.zx-10r.net and do a search for the tre and you will get all the answers.

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:58 am

thats wot i thought... thanks for the back up lads...

Paz · Post by **Paz** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:16 am

thanks for the info guys

matt76 · Post by **matt76** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:28 am

I know that with the later GSXR's that have a gear position indicator, you lose this feature as the bike thinks it is constantly in fifth gear, i'm not sure if your 10 has a gear position indicator though.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:40 pm

Any sensor on an ECU bike can be bypassed if you know the right voltage to send back. You can trick the ECU into thinking anything from O2 is always perfect, to always being in 1st to intake air being cold as ice if you want - as long as you know what voltages the sensor is supposed to send back for those conditions. So really all that's needed is the right bunch of resistors, a multimeter and a knowledge of what the ECU is expecting and you're right.

This just happens to be either a sensor that's been pre jigged or some resistors that are prewired or something...

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:31 pm

shrike wrote:Any sensor on an ECU bike can be bypassed if you know the right voltage to send back. You can trick the ECU into thinking anything from O2 is always perfect, to always being in 1st to intake air being cold as ice if you want - as long as you know what voltages the sensor is supposed to send back for those conditions. So really all that's needed is the right bunch of resistors, a multimeter and a knowledge of what the ECU is expecting and you're right.

This just happens to be either a sensor that's been pre jigged or some resistors that are prewired or something...

well there ya go...it proves Perth's as boring as shit....

actually that a pretty usefull reply...now..off to the zx10r site to see wot u can Paz...

mrmina · Post by **mrmina** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:10 pm

i didn't know u could fit them on the zx10r.

I knew they only fit on the gixxers and tillers.

u can make them for about $7. I made one for a mate who riders a tiller. I got the schematics somewhere around the house.

MickLC · Post by **MickLC** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:20 pm

Stretchy wrote:It only smoothes out throttle response, does not give any real good horsepower gain.

Not needed on the track, good for street riding where progresive throttle is needed.

Go to http://www.zx-10r.net and do a search for the tre and you will get all the answers.

There's heaps of info there on them, and some of what you need to do after installing one. Or you can spend a bit extra for a GIPro that has an "Advanced TRE" as well as a gear indicator, that doesn't have the idle problems and can be switched on and off...I got one in a fit of spending and it's pretty cool.

Paz · Post by **Paz** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:20 pm

so does the pc3 have to be remapped after this is installed? some people on the zx10.net forums say yes and some say no. anybody here know for sure?

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