I wanna 10!

[Gosling1]

.....All the rest will have to wait for a day which doesn't end in "y" for me to read it ....

so you will be reading it tomorrow then ????

[Felix]

so you will be reading it tomorrow then ????

Yes, "tomorrow"

[MiG]

Why is it people seem to think that if you own a ten you have to ride it like your valentino. You dont have to ride it flat out whereever you go, Kristy obviously wants one cause she thinks it is one sexy bike, if she is smart enough not to try and pretend to be the fastest rider in the world i say good on ya, i fully support it and with the outstanding brakes and linear power delivery i dont think it will be dangerous at all.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S FUGGIN MADE FOR! That is its purpose in life, its reason for existence. It is cool and sexy because it is a tool focused on getting from point A to point B in minimum time and it does the job well. If you buy it because of this coolness and then ride it badly and inappropriately, you are a poser feeding off the bikes reputation. Lame. Now, I'm not suggesting that everyone with a sportbike should fang it everywhere on the roads, but riding slower should be a choice. For a shit rider, using the bike properly isn't even an option, so there's no choice. And of course the bike should be taken to the track too. You don't keep greyhounds as lap dogs at a retirement home.
I realise this is very much my opinion rather than a law of the universe, but I'm very disappointed by the number of shit riders on really fast bikes, and the number of armchair wannabes for whom a lesser bike just isn't good enough.

[I-K]

So, these forums don't get know-nothing n00bs with chips on their shoulders bringing an attitude when they misinterpret the responses they receive?

Believe me I-K, none of the chips you have tried so hard to impose, have stuck to my shoulders.

You just keep telling yourself that... when you come up with a more plausible explanation for how you, with that whole month of riding under your belt, can bring yourself to talk about how "individualistic" bikes are and do on, it'd be good to hear it.

[I-K]

...riding slower should be a choice.

That's probably as close to the perfect encapsulation of the question at hand as I've ever seen expressed.

[StuMiller]

I started off with a Yamaha FZRR-250, then went to a ZX-7R. I thought that was a big step. Then I bought an 05 ZX-10R.

Can't speak highly enough of the power and the buzz it gives you when you open it up. Funny how you get some little turbo sports cars wanting to race you, but one gear will fix that.

My only annoying this I found was the heat coming from the bike was enough to fry your legs and groin. But I was willing to overlook this because it was so much fun. A little hairy in the wet taking off, but I wouldn't go back to anything less the 1000cc now.

Would recommend some experience before taking one on full time, but you couldn't smack the smile from my face......

[Gosling1]

...... but I'm very disappointed by the number of shit riders on really fast bikes.....

This description fits a hell of a lot of bikers out there !!! and capacities from 600> !!

Kristy - for what its worth, I reckon you should try out a 600 first, and see what you think of them. They go plenty fast, and they look great. The ZX6 owners here have plenty of experience, and could probably recommend a good model - some were a lot better than others. I have never owned a 6 (ridden a few though), and it could be a good step up from the smaller bike, before you bite the bullet and get a 10.

[swabio-ACT]

Hey guys, after watching the performance of the Kawasakis at the GP I've decided to forget the 10...think I'll get a Fireblade!

damn, l was looking for a cheap ZX10R for a track bike, but l guess a fireblade will do.

I feel a bidding war at fowles coming on....... I need a new track bike too!

.......Seriously Kristy, get yourself a couple of years old 600 / 636, get used to a shit tin more power on a bike that is a hell of a lot easier to control take it to the track, and get some decent rider training under your belt, and once you can outride the 600..... then step up..... I have taken a few of the litre bikes out for a bit of a ride, and even after getting of my old 05 ZX6R, they are a hell of a step up.....

The way in which the power comes on is much different to what you are used to, and minor throttle inputs can have very big outputs..... and can become very costly.......couple that with the additional cost for insurance......and rear tyres.... it really makes for a pretty poor choice to take as your first 'proper' bike. And although you may see all these posts attacking you for your god given right to choose what bike you are going to get......

take a step back from it all and actually look what the messages are, not necessarily the words used..... but pretty much all the messages are that people would rather see you progress as a rider in a safer manner..... sure ppl have differing ways of saying it, but the end message remains the same, they would prefer you to get a smaller bike that is more suited to your experience level and become a more competent and experienced rider who can chill out and enjoy some KSRC rides......rather than doing what a hell of a lot of ppl do and go out grab a late model litre bike..... and risk throwing it down the road.....and if you are not so lucky end up seriously injured or at worst killing yourself on it.....

Although you may be controlled etc when you ride, if a situation arises which induces panic, then that right hand of yours will possibly control whether you make it or not, and on a late model litre bike there is certainly not much room for error....

[mohawk miss]

(emerges from the shadows...)

Having just stepped up from my beloved ZZR250 to the 600, I can tell you that riding one, and riding on one, are two very different things; have been pillion on the Hoonda sometimes. I kept the 250 for 4 years, learning to be a more careful, more confident rider, who wasn't bothered by faster riding friends and relatives putting crap on me/my riding/250's/kawasaki's in general....

And now I scare myself every time I get on Felix, still getting used to the way it handles etc, but mostly the power response from the tiniest wrist movement.

Working at a bike shop, I am amazed at the amount of people who step up to bigger(usually 750+) bikes, only to trade them in 6mths for something with a little less cc's, as they've freaked themselves out on it and are frightened on them.

And the last rider I saw doing something because her partner thought it was a good idea, broke her neck. Literally.

(recedes back into darkness.....)

[ross79]

.....My 636 i had it upto 270kp/h. My 636 u could basically say is 50% the literage of the zx12r and yet i was only going 40kp/h slower. Plus wats more my 636 was stock. this 12r wasn't .....

One thing to consider here is the Law of Diminishing Returns, when you aim for really high top speeds. The additional horsepower required to get that extra 40kmh, at those speeds, is way more than you would expect. Each additional 10kmh requires much more than just an additional 10hp...(using the 1:1 hp/weight ratio as an example) , and at those speeds, the quality of the aerodynamics start to make all the difference as well.....

I wonder how many HP that Supra had to crack 330kmh ??

Oh a stock supra will do it.. LOL haha your right tho gos, and thats the point i am trying to make, a modern 600 like the 636 is just as capable as a 12r and 12 is almost twice the size bike!

I think its that car film called detonate, i can't remeber exactly, but the supra had HEAPS of work, where as the 12 had few bits and peices! but deerrrrr anyone could tell u that!

I have to agree with mmaster, i love a good flaming! on another note i might get a kebab for tea!

Wow, can't believe this thread is still going!
Yep the DVD is called High Octane I've got the whole series. It was in Germany on the Autobarn. The supra was heavily worked, over 800hp. The 12 didn't have many mods done to it, just an exhaust.

TT supras are fast, but there's No way a stock Supra will do those sorts of speeds! as we own one. Even Wisc will agree with me on this as he's got one too.

[ross79]

stating that my suggestions are technically incorrect, yet I see no evidence to support your view.

Are you familiar with the concept of "prerequisite knowledge"? Your Mrs is a teacher. She can explain it to you if necessary...

So what you're trying to say is you have no evidence to support your view.

What's to say yours are any better?

I don't go around telling people they should think about 250kg/135hp sportstourers as solutions to the issues they're having handling their 130kg/30hp 250's.

This particular mate didn't want to go through the hasle of buying a 600 getting sick of it than wasting money when it comes to sell and upgrade. Otherwise I would have suggested a heavier 600

Not everyone wants to ride like Rossi, they're just happy to take things at their own pace on a bike they want. Whether that's a 250 or 1250 so be it.

That statement is at odds with someone who makes a habit of putting ideas into people's heads about what bike they should ride...

As I've mentioned previously, (maybe I need to type slower so you can understand). I just made a suggestion, you seem convinced I'm brainwashing everyone into getting bigger bikes.
Just so you know, I told my other mate to stick to a 600 when it comes to upgrade, as he doesn't have enough self control.

[Wattie]

dammmm,

i went away for a weekend and this thread is still going!!

[Glen]

Yup still going. Da de da de dum de da.................... I think I know what will fix it though........ Yak fat (the answer to everything)

[Wattie]

Yup still going. Da de da de dum de da.................... I think I know what will fix it though........ Yak fat (the answer to everything)

all hail Yak fat! best discovery ever!

[Frank]

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all hail Yak fat! best discovery ever!

What is Yak Fat I hear you all say.........
Well only a couple of short days till the release of the all new wonder product, it does EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING