zx14 front end shudder

For general Technical and Performance Discussions
stuart
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:33 am
Bike: ZX14R
State: New South Wales

zx14 front end shudder

Post by stuart »

Hey All, I have a 07 model zx14 which has developed a front end shudder under high speed braking (above 100km) , i have changed calipers, installed brand new discs, changed brake lines, changed wheel bearings, checked and tightened headset bearings, changed brake pads and still nothing seems to remeady this extremely anoying problem. Just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience and or know's of a solution to this problem. Any feedback would be very much appreciated.
Cheers
Stuart
User avatar
Glen
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 7268
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:30 am
Bike: ZRX
State: New South Wales
Location: Kellyville

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by Glen »

Holy Shit looks like you've covered everything except for tyres. Have you put new rubber on since it's been doing it.
It's really all about standing around drinking Dave's beer.
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
User avatar
greg
KSRC Member
KSRC Member
Posts: 365
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:43 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales
Location: Sydney

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by greg »

Hey Stuart...I recently took my zx12r to replace chain & sprocket. The guy was talking abt this same problem being common on 12 & 14...so give him a call...he might be able to shed some light on this problem...he does alot of work for KSRC..great guy... details: Glen from Allfixed Automotive on 96431455 :kuda:
User avatar
tim
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 5815
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:12 pm
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales
Location: Sydney, NSW

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by tim »

My 08 ZX6R had that when I got it, only very slight, and only when braking hard at high speed.

I put new tyres on almost straight away and I haven't noticed it since (old tyres had 9,000k on them and were pretty shagged).

I'll check tonight and let you know.
2008 ZX6R Special Edition
User avatar
seiko1
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
Posts: 7643
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:36 pm
Bike: ZX14R
State: Victoria
Location: Geelong

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by seiko1 »

I have the same model but have'nt got the problem or even heard of it :shock:
All I can think of is maybe the fork pressure or settings are fucked up ;)
Policy - Find something simple.....and Complicate it!
User avatar
fireyrob
KSRC Addict
KSRC Addict
Posts: 4828
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:13 am
Bike: Z1000
State: New South Wales
Location: Ashfield

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by fireyrob »

Seems like you know what your doing but have you checked to see if the forks are bottoming out? Can do this by adding a zip tie to one of them... But like has been said tyres are the most obvious question so far. 8)
09 ZX6R
03 Zthou
User avatar
smithy5
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 3467
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:37 am
Bike: Scooter
State: New South Wales
Location: Kurrajong, NSW

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by smithy5 »

I just got back from a ride and consciously tested my brakes, no problems........ maybe you lost a wheel weight, try getting it re-balanced, otherwise I dunno.............
2013 Triumph Thunderbird 1700 Storm
Suzuki 1300 LillBusa Ute
Serviced by Allfixed Automotive Castle Hill PH: (02) 9634 1455
SRT Survivor & Oficial Photographer
User avatar
Wattie
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 10041
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:23 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales
Location: Bligh Park

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by Wattie »

smithy5 wrote:I just got back from a ride and consciously tested my brakes, no problems........ maybe you lost a wheel weight, try getting it re-balanced, otherwise I dunno.............

I saw your said ride, your bike has a major problem!






it was not on the back wheel. better bring her round to my joint so i can fix her up :kuda:
Wattie #55
ZX10R "The Crim"
ZX10R "Gumby"
Proudly Supported by Allfixed Automotive 9634 1455
sam & srt, survived
RGM, left a message
oldman

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by oldman »

Try checking the tire pressure. Low or high pressure will cause front end wobbl as well as wierd braking. If thats it, have about 10 Jim Beams to overcome the feeling of stupity. If it's not it have 10 Jims anyway and it won't matter.
stuart
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:33 am
Bike: ZX14R
State: New South Wales

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by stuart »

G'Day again,
Tyres are the only thing that i hav'nt done yet, but i have a new set ready to go so i'll try that and see. I'll knock out a six pack of jimmy's at the same time. Thanks heaps for the feedback.
Stuart
Supafrog
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 1431
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:00 pm
Bike: ZX12R
State: Western Australia
Location: Sydney -> Melbourne -> Brisbane -> Perth

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by Supafrog »

Stuart...

Has the wobble gone away???? or just the six pack of Jimmy's?
______________________________
BACK IN BLACK! -> 2005 ZX-12R ;o)
stuart
Newbie
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:33 am
Bike: ZX14R
State: New South Wales

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by stuart »

G'Day Superfrog,

Changed tyres, front and rear balanced wheels, did pressures right and still no luck. I'm going to take my fork to biketec to be revalved new springs oil etc and see if that changes anything. I did'nt drink the jimmy's i had to ride home.

Stuart
Last edited by stuart on Wed May 05, 2010 6:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
smithy5
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 3467
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:37 am
Bike: Scooter
State: New South Wales
Location: Kurrajong, NSW

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by smithy5 »

You seemed to have repaired, replaced or redone every movable part.... I wonder if something is bent somewhere :?
2013 Triumph Thunderbird 1700 Storm
Suzuki 1300 LillBusa Ute
Serviced by Allfixed Automotive Castle Hill PH: (02) 9634 1455
SRT Survivor & Oficial Photographer
oldman

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by oldman »

Sorry tyres did not fix your problem. Please let us know what the solution is.
User avatar
IsleofNinja
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
Posts: 1021
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:08 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: Western Australia
Location: That tiny black dot in the distance.......

Re: zx14 front end shudder

Post by IsleofNinja »

Out of curiosity , I would prob run a dial gauge over both discs new or not just to make sure they are sitting square on the wheel boss.. Highly unlikely I know but you've checked every other bloody thing , unless its bottoming on the forks as mentioned perhaps??
Did you do the ziptie thing as Rob suggested?
06 ZX10r , 95 ZX9r
97 GSF1200 project streetfighter
07 FXST

EXPERIENCE:ex_spear_ee_anse :noun: Knowledge or skill derived from actual participation or direct contact rather than mere study, interest or internet.
Post Reply