Parra Kawasaki

up2nogood · Post by **up2nogood** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:55 pm

up2nogood...
I saw a nice blue zx12 sitting outside the workshop just waiting for someone to come and pick it up.... Looks great.!!!

Woo Hoo!!!!!!

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:07 pm

MadKaw wrote:it sorta fell over a bit....

yea..dave was a bit coy abt giving any details away...i think he was worried id bag him out...i probably woulda too u kno...

up2nogood · Post by **up2nogood** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:05 pm

Well, picked up the ZX12 today, one block from home hit a samll bit of oil on the road....Combine that with the new tyres and over we go.....

Bugger!

Gotta say that Parra Kawasaki have looked after me veeeeery well. Busted a foot peg and banana'd my brake lever. Dave organised for the boys in the workshop to pull some bits off a bike on the floor to get me going again! Even felt sorry for me and didn't charge labour. Legend!

So she's a little scratched, but that just adds character, don't it!

Even better though, sold the ZX9 as soon as I got home!

krusty · Post by **krusty** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:25 pm

MadKaw wrote:Krusty,
I spoke to Dave at Parra Kawasaki today and he said he'll do you a good deal on a zzr250. Price is about $8300 on road but they won't have any for a couple of weeks.

Thanks for asking for me.

They were $7990 in March, They only had black ones then (don't like black, not very visible and shows dust easily) and were going to call me when they had the blue ones arrive (some time in April). I can't remember the guys name, but he was an older guy. I didn't like the way he said that I would have to talk to the accessories counter about getting a Ventura rack. I would have brought the black one then if he included the rack and 1k service at that price. I didn't even want to take one for a test ride!
Imagine going to buy a new car and wanting to get headlight covers and floor mats and being told to "go and talk to spare parts".

I ended up getting gray_rm's zzr from SCM a few days after going to parrakwaka, which I have put 6000km on in 12 weeks (2/3 commuting, 1/3 touring), Richard took 12 months to put 6000km on it. I just had the 12k service done if your reading Richard. If only we met in March we both could have got a better deal.

If I decide to get another kwak in a couple years I'll go and see Dave.

aardvark · Post by **aardvark** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:00 pm

up2nogood wrote: Bugger!

I'd be saying more than bugger!

up2nogood · Post by **up2nogood** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:20 pm

I'll see what I say when I get prices for the fix it bits...........

And I reckon you'll be right.

Anyway, can't help bad luck.

Post by **MadKaw** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:30 am

Yep, bugger just doesn't really cut it...

I feel your pain, and hope it gets sorted quickly and cheaply...

Its ok though, as at least 2 of us saw it in its pristine state..

Blackzxr · Post by **Blackzxr** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:03 pm

Sorry to hear about your excursion Alex. Hope you paid that premium

Barrabob · Post by **Barrabob** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:17 pm

I did that to my six pottering into a corner at low speed just after i picked it up not even 1 km old and lowsided it down the road, it really sucked and i would say the dealers see a bit of it.

Have to feel sorry for you but been there done that and you would wonder if they used a bit of something on the tire to clean it, my tyre place uses alcohol on the tyre after he fits it too clean it up and we have a couple of others that use a die grinder just to clean the surface off a bit.

Maybe the work experiance kid gave them a good clean with silicon spray

well thats what i thought when it happened to me they where like teflon tyres no grip at all and it shouldnt let go at both ends at 15kph.

arggghh just put it down to experiance.

up2nogood · Post by **up2nogood** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:01 pm

Sure was bloody slippery. I wiped the thing down with paint thinners this arvo and then scuffed 'em with some coarse grit paper.

Still not game to take a corner quick though! Lucky I can't rev her too hard on the run in mileage.

Had a good look at the damage. Worst is the engine cover and the muffler. Well, the muffler's too quiet anyway!
The rest are just some scratches. Fairing is only just scratched, which is good. Well, as good as it can be!

I've never had a new tyre that slippery before, reckon the next time I pick up a new bike I'll be taking a few rags and some thinners with me.

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:47 am

I reckon it should be up to the dealer to make the bike safe, it is not as if the problem is unheard of.

Jonno · Post by **Jonno** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:06 am

Mark wrote:I reckon it should be up to the dealer to make the bike safe, it is not as if the problem is unheard of.

Yeah I reckon they should pre-scuff tyres when fitted and not just attempt to wipe of the residue with rubbing alcohol, I was warned many times during both my bike purchases to go real easy but unfortunatly in this case I don't think it would of helped Alex with the combination of oil on the road and the manufactures wax still on the tyre. Most tyre fitters say it even if you know as it is easy to forget until the first white line that gives u a fright of ya life..

I spose you could relate it to buying a new cage and the brakes don't work well until 100kms of bedding in or it is hard to steer until it has worn the ball joints some, that could be a roadworthy issue which I reckon this should come under.

Glen · Post by **Glen** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:28 am

I think it's asking too much guys. We're all big people and we should all be responsible for our stuff up's. As unfortunate as some of these situations are and as unpalatable as this may be I would much rather accept responsibility myself.

We all know that new tyres are as slippery as buggery and every time you buy a bike or tyre you get told that. In normal circumstances a new tyre doesn't give you grief so long as you take it easy for 100 - 200 klms. If you run over some oil or brake on a road marking then this is going to make life very interesting but there is little the dealer can do about that. I would much rather scrub a new tyre in myself then have the third year apprentice at the dealership riding my bike.

As for making the dealer responsible, where do you draw the line? In most of these cases it will be a combination of a number of factors including experience and unfamiliarity with the bike that contribute to the spill. Like all things if you continue trying to pin responsibility back up the line you'll eventually end up with service costs going through the roof, bikes costing more etc etc which then stuff's it for everyone.

samhasa636 · Post by **samhasa636** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:20 am

I agree there has to be a procedure to effectively scrub new tyres.

I mean, the shop says take it real easy for 100km... no lean angles and no real heat in the tyres. Then at 101km, you have followed instructions to the T and let her rip... now you are on the as yet unused edge of the tyre, shiny as you like, and off you get.

This leads me to the question: what about racing slicks? What do all the racers do?

strutto · Post by **strutto** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:31 am

Glen wrote:I think it's asking too much guys. We're all big people and we should all be responsible for our stuff up's. As unfortunate as some of these situations are and as unpalatable as this may be I would much rather accept responsibility myself.

We all know that new tyres are as slippery as buggery and every time you buy a bike or tyre you get told that. In normal circumstances a new tyre doesn't give you grief so long as you take it easy for 100 - 200 klms. If you run over some oil or brake on a road marking then this is going to make life very interesting but there is little the dealer can do about that. I would much rather scrub a new tyre in myself then have the third year apprentice at the dealership riding my bike.

As for making the dealer responsible, where do you draw the line? In most of these cases it will be a combination of a number of factors including experience and unfamiliarity with the bike that contribute to the spill. Like all things if you continue trying to pin responsibility back up the line you'll eventually end up with service costs going through the roof, bikes costing more etc etc which then stuff's it for everyone.

I agree with everything Glen has said...