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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:52 am
by FrogZ
I'd guess its rooted because someone run it without coolant
(sorry Mick couldnt help meself)
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:09 am
by mick_dundee
Just pulled the water pump off, there is a shaft that drives that impeller and it goes into the motor somewhere and it's broken, how, why? Fucked if I know, now a matter of sussing out if it's worth fixing or the bike goes to Vic bike wreckers as a piece of shit and I either a) become a cager or b) more likely, loook to get a loan for a bike..
Pink ribbon will have to go without me

along with a shitload of other bike rides for a while I reckon, damn!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:20 pm
by Gosling1
Mick - I think you may find that impeller shaft breakages are not that uncommon at all. Remember, that little shaft has to pump through thousands of litres of coolant each week ( assuming you ride every day).
Not sure on the exact figure, although I am sure there is an anorak out there who could work it out, but assuming it takes 1 minute to pump 8 litres of coolant through the system, then 1 hour riding would equal 480 litres pumped...............do that 5 days per week, and you are looking at almost 2,500 litres per week......

( and thats using conservative estimates of pump capacity...)
Replacing the impeller shaft is a pain in the arse, but not the end of your bike, thats for sure. Chin up mate, it could have been heaps worse.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:50 pm
by Neka79
Gosling1 wrote:Mick - I think you may find that impeller shaft breakages are not that uncommon at all. Remember, that little shaft has to pump through thousands of litres of coolant each week ( assuming you ride every day).
Not sure on the exact figure, although I am sure there is an anorak out there who could work it out, but assuming it takes 1 minute to pump 8 litres of coolant through the system, then 1 hour riding would equal 480 litres pumped...............do that 5 days per week, and you are looking at almost 2,500 litres per week......

( and thats using conservative estimates of pump capacity...)
Replacing the impeller shaft is a pain in the arse, but not the end of your bike, thats for sure. Chin up mate, it could have been heaps worse.

stop being a bloody accountant and tell him how to fix the bloody thing....
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:21 am
by mick_dundee
Gosling1 wrote:Replacing the impeller shaft is a pain in the arse, but not the end of your bike, thats for sure. Chin up mate, it could have been heaps worse.

It could?? Well yeah I guess it could, dunno about MUCH worse but indeed could be worse. Quote for repair is around $1500, have to take the motor out, split it, replace shaft and indeed water pupmp, then put it all back together and back in the bike.
Will be needing a veritable shitload of gaskets and frankly it's not worth it so time to go bike hunting.
This will become a project, hopefully not as big a project as Tapes

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:33 am
by Duane
I hear the 14's a nice tourer.
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:59 am
by Benno
I think a goldwing would be more fitting for Mick, he could sleep and ride at the same time!

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:02 pm
by Neka79
mate..sell the zzr off or parts..well what ever parts are usable...
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:08 am
by FrogZ
Quite your bitchin, fix it and go for a ride you old poof
Some would kill to have a broken bike being the only thing stopping us from riding ...

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:13 am
by Lainie
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 4:21 pm
by mick_dundee
Well I had a bid on an older model ZZR600 on ebay but been outbid so there goes that idea

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:42 pm
by mike-s
So what's exactly broken? the shaft that drives the impeller on the pump? or whatever the heck it plugs into within the motor?
I took the waterpump off my old gpx recently and the shaft went all the way into the motor, i gather the fugger broke and has fallen into the sump somewhere?
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:04 pm
by mick_dundee
Mike, yeah that's exactly what's worng wit it, will need another wter pump too.
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:01 pm
by Ratmick
mick_dundee wrote:Mike, yeah that's exactly what's worng wit it, will need another wter pump too.
That's a bit of bad luck Mick.
Mine went earlier in the year, first I knew about it was when it leaked oil all over the footpath at work. When I pulled it off to replace the o-ring sealing the outside world off from the engine oil, I found the bearings in the water pump had shat themselves. I'm guessing if I hadn't found it when I did then the bearing contents would have found themselves inside the engine with disastrous results.
Anyway, I got a 2000 model pump from a wrecker and used the internals with my casing (the 2000 has a manifold heater fitting). Seems ok...so far

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