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ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:16 pm
by laidback
My manual tells me when I need special tools but doesn't say anything about removing/fitting the front sprocket. :?

As it has a squared section on the outside and the nut section on the inside, do I use a long socket or something on the square section ?

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:59 pm
by Kev
Do you have a photo John? I'm guessing it's a bit different to the earlier 9's going off your question.

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:02 pm
by Gosling1
and that's when the trouble started...........

mate, they use a massive robot to install these at the factory, with something like 300nM applied ( or at least it feels that much..)

You can use a long breaker-bar on the right-sized sprocket - bung a big piece of timber in the back wheel so it locks up against the swingarm - say a couple of prayers and heave your guts out. Good luck.

When I did Mel's front sprocket a few years ago.......the workshop took 2 goes with the gas-axe to get the fucken nut to loosen up. Its a nightmare. If your sprocket has already been done, then maybe the breaker bar or an air rattle-gun will do the trick.

8)

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:19 pm
by laidback
Kev wrote:Do you have a photo John? I'm guessing it's a bit different to the earlier 9's going off your question.
This is my problem...could just use a nut but want speedo drive (uses the square bit for the pulses.
Front Sprocket Nut.jpg
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Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:54 pm
by Blurr
Make sure you used single hex socket, ohhhh and rattle gun for the win. It takes 2 minutes to swap it with a rattle gun

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:45 am
by bonester
ER6n is the same. Lotsa swearing to get the fukker off. Rear brake on, extension bar jammed in sprocket (new ones getting fitted afterwards) and a complete fukker to get off. Rattle gun didn't work. BIG breaker bar did. eventually.

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:01 am
by Kev
Definitely don't have one of them on my 9 and I would stay away from the square section when you're trying to loosen it, unless you want to shear the sucker off that is. Looks like you need one of those 6-point deep impact sockets. I bought one from repco for about $30 to remove the drive shaft lock nuts off the car to replace them. I always use a big piece of timber through the rear wheel and against the swingarm like Gos said and breaker bar. Makes a lovely big cracking sound when it finally lets go too and for a split second I always think I've broken something.

This is the socket I use.

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:18 am
by Wattie
Kev wrote:Definitely don't have one of them on my 9 and I would stay away from the square section when you're trying to loosen it, unless you want to shear the sucker off that is. Looks like you need one of those 6-point deep impact sockets. I bought one from repco for about $30 to remove the drive shaft lock nuts off the car to replace them. I always use a big piece of timber through the rear wheel and against the swingarm like Gos said and breaker bar. Makes a lovely big cracking sound when it finally lets go too and for a split second I always think I've broken something.

This is the socket I use.

Yep that's the socket.

27mm socket on most.
I did Hoffy's the other week. And even with a shithot electric rattle gun, it took a good 5 seconds before the nut started turning.

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:41 am
by Blurr
I shit hot 1/2inch electric rattle gun will have up to or about 400nm of breakaway torque. So if the nut if done up to about 300+ it may take a second or 2. Where as good air gun will start at 500nm and go well above 1000 depending on brand.

I took mine off the other day using a shit hot cordless rattle gun and t only took about 2 secs and that was factory tightened.

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:25 am
by MickLC
Don't try to use the square section, whatever you do. It'll just collapse and stuff the nut completely. The bit I could never understand is why the hex section has rounded corners from new.

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:18 am
by MadKaw
Yep, all the above in particular the deep socket Kev posted..
Before I got a "shit hot" rattle gun, I use to have the misses on the bike standing on the rear brake, a block of timber thru the rear wheel and use breaker bar. Busted a couple of cheap sockets doing that too...

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:03 am
by Frank
I never found it that hard, Ride out to Glenn's and get him to take it off, easy as! ;) :kuda:

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:54 am
by laidback
Frank wrote:I never found it that hard, Ride out to Glenn's and get him to take it off, easy as! ;) :kuda:
Bit hard for me to ride out there and besides it the tracky...

Have rattle gun so just need socket.

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:56 am
by Wattie
Frank wrote:I never found it that hard, Ride out to Glenn's and get him to take it off, easy as! ;) :kuda:
You mean trailer it out!

Or better still just call him as the bike is there anyway ;-)

Re: ZX9 front sprocket removal

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:05 am
by MickLC
laidback wrote:
Have rattle gun so just need socket.
Look for Kinchrome 4wd hub sockets in stores like auto pro. There's a few different sizes and they're just like the one in the picture.