05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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mmmm looks like the source of the ever increasing engine noise I am getting is the cam chain, fairly noisy on start up, now I have been told that if they are the ratchet type that eventually the tensioner will click out another notch & the noise will settle, but if it is a bolt type then it might need to be replaced, can anyone tell me what type of tensioner these run?
the manual states these are a non return type, once it moves out to take up cam chain tension...... :? I wish it would hurry up & move out :roll:
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Rob I changed one the other week on a little newer zx6....Is a peice of piss to do...They are a spring loaded ratchet and they do tend to fail apparently....In my case it was the spring that hold's the ratchet locked in if that makes sense :shock: ....It was deformed and the lock wouldn't lock if that makes sense :? ....

There is a trick apparently the tension spring can fail and you can pull it out and stretch it and reload (didn't work in my case)....If you like I can take a pic of the one I took out so you can see what your dealing with.....
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ratchet type same as 10 i think. click it out anotherr.
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Re: 05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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Here is the one I took out...you can sort of just see in the pic the small spring on the locking mechanism has deformed and popped out a bit causing it not to lock properly....The larger one is the one you stretch for more preload for lack of another word :lol: ....
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Don't have any problems with doing it Dave, I have done automatic ones ones on older bikes including manual racing tensioners but this could be a hassle as the everything has gotta come off including throttle bodies to get to it according to the manual, once again I can do it but with the SV on the bench in a million pieces I really don't want to start another teardown.... not that I have the time at the moment anyway work is murder at the moment.... you know the feeling :roll:
Disco wrote:Rob I changed one the other week on a little newer zx6....Is a peice of piss to do...They are a spring loaded ratchet and they do tend to fail apparently....In my case it was the spring that hold's the ratchet locked in if that makes sense :shock: ....It was deformed and the lock wouldn't lock if that makes sense :? ....

There is a trick apparently the tension spring can fail and you can pull it out and stretch it and reload (didn't work in my case)....If you like I can take a pic of the one I took out so you can see what your dealing with.....
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I have no doubt about you mechanical capabilities :prayer: :lol: .....

Mine was on the right hand side and only a fairing off job....As you stated yours sound's like a bigger PITA :shock:
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Re: 05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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Sits just behind the RH side of the frame
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Borrow some small hands and you can get to it, i swapped mine out with out removing the throttle bodies.
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Re: 05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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03 or 05-06 I think they are a different set up
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Re: 05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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Mine was done on a '05- '06

You can remove it or adjust it this way. i have done both.
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Cool there is hope then.... edit checked the link, perfect job for a wet afternoon :D thanks heaps for the info.
Pics in the manual are from above the cct, spose the last thing they are going to tell you is this sort of stuff :kuda:
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Good luck just don't loosen it to much or u will have to remove it and re set it.
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Re: 05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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Well I started at 6am no one else around & it was pretty damn quiet, (hint, take off the tank.... its easier & you can see what you are doing) I found it a bit tight to get to the top bolt but I have a 1/4 socket set with a universal joint that was perfect for the job... my biggest concern was not to strip the bolt heads! anyway I loosened the top & wound her out a turn one two then use the open ended spanner for the bottom (I prefer to use the ring side but the outer edge was a bit big ... once again I didn't want to strip the head so & got an older 8mm spanner & cut back the outer edge & had the perfect fit) neither bolt was very tight :shock: I expected a heap of locktight to hinder the process. so being careful to listen out for the click I wound out the bottom & got nothing so I backed off the top a little more then the bottom gently & then she clicked :D the gap was about 1.5mm which was more than I had expected but I got the click so I was happy 8) so with bolts tightened I whacked the tank back on & fired her up.................................................................. Farkin MAD! there is no noise! :D
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Total time to do the job 20 min & that includes the tool modification :kuda:
Note: I would not try doing this in a noisy environment I only just heard the click :?
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Re: 05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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i just undid the big bolt in the middle, removed spring and pin and inserted appropriate tool to click it out one more.

If i was to buy a new spring, i;d chuck the spring in every one in a while to push it out a click if needed then remove the spring and keep in the toolbox. it'd last forever that way. :lol:
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Re: 05 ZX6R Cam Chain Tensioner

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Yeah looked at that option Wattie but the majority on the linked forum were using this option & by keeping the tension on, there is less chance of going more than one click & having to take the farker out to reset it ;)
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